When was the 15 degree cutting angle adopted? Joe Salerno Video Works! Is it working for you? PO Box 273405 - Houston TX 77277-3405 http://joe.salerno.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Smolian" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Optical Groove Digitization > It's not just anti-skating. > > Every cartridge is designed to swing from left-to-right and back to the > excursion required by a stereo record. A three mill groove requires the > cantalever to swing six times as far in both directions from the same pivot > point. > > The weight of the diamond is greater. > > The amount of downward force is greater by approximately 2-1/2 times to keep > the stylus from being thrown out of the groove. > > The cutting angle of 78s was 0 degrees, that of LPs, 15 degrees. > > The problem may not be anti-skate. > > Steven Smolian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Spencer" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:53 PM > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Optical Groove Digitization > > > > Duane Goldman wrote, > > > > > As an eternal devil's advocate I still ponder the concept of > > > translating a continuous 3-D analog signal into a digital > > > representation . . . many educated ears are not satisfied with > > > digital reproduction. . . Perhaps in concert with such efforts > > > {at 3-D scanning] should be an equal expenditure to improve > > > analog recording & reproduction if for no other reason as to > > > establish a proper base point. > > > > As always, Dr. Goldman brings up points worth pondering, especially as > > regards the reproduction of coarse-grooved records. Wouldn't it be nice > > to have a turntable/arm combination specifically engineered for 78 > > playback, as opposed to microgroove? With proper anti-skating, at least? > > > > More interesting is the question of digitization of the signal. It > > seems to me that the process of producing a highly accurate 3-D digital > > image of the surface of a record does not digitize the signal, merely > > the physical analogue of the signal as represented by the groove on the > > record. > > > > In fact, the signal need not be digitized at all with this process, > > whether the virtual groove is tracked virtually or used to produce a new > > copy of the record for traditional playback (both options have been > > discussed on this list). It can be kept in analog form. One may argue > > that digitizing the record surface perforce digitizes the signal, but if > > the accuracy is high enough it seems to me that there would be no effect > > on the signal itself. > > > > In any event, the typical pre-tape 78 was recorded direct to disk, ore > > or less, so unless there is access to the original metal parts or an > > intermediate form, the record itself is the lowest-generation copy > > available, so we are faced with the necessity of tracing its groove in > > one way or another. In theory, the process discussed herein would seem > > to allow the most accurate extraction possible of the information > > represented by the groove. At the least, it would allow the > > reconstruction of a mint copy of any record that has a groove that is > > pristine at some level all along its length. This last consideration > > alone is enough to justify it for me. > > > > > > > > Rob Spencer >