>>> [log in to unmask] 10/21/03 12:45AM >>> Perhaps we need a firmer statement in the LCRI as to when to consider something a reproduction and when not to? And maybe an "in case of doubt" rule? Adam ************************************** Adam-- I'm not sure it's possible to make any "firmer" statement than what is already in the footnote in LCRI 1.11A (my colleagues still tease me about the the longest footnote in LCRIs), but feel free to offer wording. Some of the examples you give seem to be "simultaneous" publications (albeit that the print copies may be held up slightly due to production/distribution processes), which are specifically exluded from this RI as mentioned in the footnote. Also, as you can see, the "in case of doubt" clause is already present. Dave Footnote 1 from LCRI 1.11A: "A reproduction is a manifestation that replicates an item (or a group of items) or another manifestation (e.g., a reprint with no changes) that is intended to function as a substitute. The reproduction may be in a different physical format from the original. Reproduction is generally a mechanical rather than an intellectual process. The physical characteristics of the reproduction such as color, image resolution, or sound fidelity are influenced by the particular process used to create it, and therefore may differ from those of the original. Reproductions are usually made for such reasons as the original's limited availability, remote location, poor condition, high cost, or restricted utility. Cataloger judgment will be required to distinguish electronic reproductions from electronic republications or simultaneous publication in analog and digital form (only reproductions are covered by this LCRI). For example, an electronic reproduction produced using scanning techniques that results in a facsimile reproduction may be easily identified as a reproduction. Other non-facsimile electronic reproductions may also be considered under this LCRI when they purport to be a reproduction of the original and can serve as a surrogate for the original. Other cataloging agencies choosing to follow this LCRI may need to develop their own criteria for distinguishing reproductions from manifestations judged not to be reproductions. In cases of doubt, or in cases where there is inadequate information about the original on which to base a description, do not consider the electronic manifestation to be a reproduction."