On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 06:21, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

> I'm happy to do that.  There's another issue which is that I'm used to
> seeing a reference type that is typically named "personal
> communication."  This can refer to letters, phone conversations,
> emails, memos, etc.  Yet the MARC list only has the rather narrow
> "letter."

Right. MARC does not include personal communications. It has been used
so far only for expressions that have been fixed -- either written down
or recorded in some way. The citation of personal communications really
goes beyond "bibliographic", although it is part of the "cited in an
article" type of citation. To me, this is the boundary at which
citations in articles go beyond the stated purpose of MARC, which really
depends on there being a physical format to the intellectual property.
(Something that Stoppard referred to as having "... a beginning, a
middle, and an end," and that the copyright law calls "a fixation"
although not meant in the Freudian sense.) Personal communication is
experiential. Other than citations in texts, I"m not aware of any other
formal metadata for that type of ... uh... non-thing.

Chicago manual of style gives this example:

Ewing, Paul Q. Telephone converation with author. 2 February 1985

I can imagine coding this as:

<mods:mods xmlns:mods="">
                <mods:title>Telephone conversation with
        <mods:name type="personal">
                <mods:namePart>Ewing, Paul Q.</mods:namePart>
        <mods:language authority="iso639-2b">eng</mods:language>
        <mods:note type="statement of responsibility">as spoken to [name
of author]</mods:note>

There's a real question of: where do you put the listener/author? In the
context of the original citation, you know who the "author" is in the
citation statement "conversation with the author." Once you pull this
citation out of a document, it's going to need some help in order to
have meaning. A citation to a book or journal article can stand alone,
but not a personal communication. So I guess I have to wonder why you'd
be adding this to a personal bibliography (since the same content is not
available to you -- it was a one time thing and you weren't there nor
can you recapture it).

Karen Coyle
Digital Library Specialist
Ph: 510-540-7596 Fax: 510-848-3913