It may be a moot point. I don't think Jeff is making turntables anymore, although last time I heard from him he said he had enough parts to make one more Archive 20. I've had no trouble with mine. Couldn't say about comparing it to a Technics. Joe Salerno Video Works! Is it working for you? PO Box 273405 - Houston TX 77277-3405 http://joe.salerno.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "RA Friedman" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:17 PM Subject: [ARSCLIST] Diapason Turntables, Opinions/Personal Experiences? > I'm looking for a turntable that will handle up to 16" discs; is high quality but won't break the bank. I saw a Diapason recently and it looked pretty decent. How would a turntable like this measure up to a "vintage" Technics SP-15 with an SME 3012R arm? > > RA Friedman, Archivist > Freedman Jewish Music Archive > University of Pennsylvania > > Dave Radlauer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > In a message dated 1/26/04 9:00:39 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: > > << Comments based on use would be appreciated, together with alternative = > suggestions if you don't feel this is a good choice. >> > > I have found and purchased what I find a much better alternative: the > Loricraft record cleaner. It is also the only cleaner I know of that can handle 16" > electrical transcription discs, which is the main application I'm using it for. > Details online at: > http://www.smartdev.com/loricraft.html > > > Dave Radlauer > www.JAZZHOT.Bigstep.com > > ********************** > > > From the SmartDev site: > > The Loricraft PRC3 is based on the work of the late Percy Wilson, Technical > Editor of the Gramophone Magazine in England. The prototype (hand made) machine > was demonstrated at the Buxton HiFi show in the 1960's and drew quite a bit > of attention for it's ability to thoroughly clean a record. This design was > used by several companies since that time. > The design was improved and modernized using state-of-the-art components and > by Loricraft Audio. Thousands of units are now used around the world by > leading record studios, record dealers, and serious collectors. The product is also > very simple to use. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > How Record cleaning machines work. . . > > 1 .The popular priced record cleaning machines use a basic, low cost Shop Vac > "wet/dry" vacuum motor to remove the cleaning fluid from the record. These > type motors are for intermittent use only and will seriously overheat if run > continuously. Because these motors develop a high RPM in order to develop a net > 27 pounds per square inch vacuum at the nozzle, they are extremely loud. An > optional cooling fan installation kit is offered by the manufacturers for > continuous operation at a cost of about $100. > > 2. A Vacuum Pickup Tube extends over the playing surface of the record and > sucks up the fluid applied to the record. Velvet-like strips are cemented to > either side of the vacuum "slot" of the pickup tube. Manufacturers of these type > machine recommend cleaning the velvet-like "lips" with a toothbrush after > every few cleanings to keep grit, chemical pollution, and dirt from being > transferred to the next record being cleaned. If not done religiously contamination > from one record can be transferred to the next, and the next, and so on. > Manufacturers recommend the Pickup tube be replaced after 200 cleanings (400 sides). > The cost of the new tube is about $50. > 3 . . . . etc > > How is the Loricraft different? > Instead of attempting to clean the record in one pass, as the other machines > do, the Loricraft has a vacuum arm similar to a phono tone arm that glides > over the record. One side of the record is cleaned in less than a minute. The > vacuum arm is driven by a separate motor assembly using a clever coupling system. > > The nylon nozzle tip of the vacuum arm does not touch the record. A fine > filament nylon thread threads through the center of the arm and nozzle that allows > the arm to lie very close the record. This un-calendared thread acts as a > "ski" to support the arm and keep it a small fraction of an inch from the record. > In fact, the distance is the thickness of the 30 gauge thread. . . . .. It is > high intensity, local suction that is not distributed over the whole record > (globally). The arm will "ride" up the rim of the record to assure the > beginning track of the record is perfectly cleaned. > > The turntable platter moves at 80 RPM which exposes the maximum surface of > the record to the moving vacuum arm. The record is absolutely dry because of > this action. > > Before cleaning another record pull out a 1"4 inch of fresh thread from the > thread feed tube. This assures clean thread is in contact with the record and > will not transfer contamination from the last cleaning. The excess USED thread > is sucked into the fluid vacuum tube and is deposited in the USED fluid > reservoir jar. > > 11. Any of the popular record cleaning solutions that work with other brand > machines may be used with the Loricraft System. We include a free bottle of the > SMART microgroove record cleaning solution with each machine to sample. > > * Cleans any size record including 16 inch ET (Electrical Transcriptions) > * Effectively cleans warped and rippled records. > * Superior cleaning of modern records with raised rim on the outside edge > of the record. > * No contamination of record from debris and chemicals from last records > cleaned. > * Inexpensive replacement of the medium. One spool of thread lasts for > thousands of cleanings. > * Very quiet European industrial grade vacuum pump. > * Absolutely no damage to your valuable records. > * Separate control switches for turntable motor, vacuum arm, and vacuum > pump. > * European craftsmanship. Made is the U.K. Fully warranted in the U.S. by > SMART Devices, Inc. > * Equals or exceeds the performance of professional record cleaners that > are 3 times the price. > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!