On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Marc Cromme wrote: > Mike Taylor wrote: > >>From: Marc Cromme <[log in to unmask]> > >>2) an indication of the actual relevance value of every record in > >>the hit set (this needs a new SOAP tag in SRW) > >No SRW changes are needed for this: there are already two mechanisms > >for including this information. One is just to add it to the returned > Less is more: > approach a) woun't fly, since then I have to know each server > specifically to figure out where in the returned record this information > is buried, and in which form. What a hell of a logic to write for a > federated search over some 30-50 targets! More importantly, it won't fly because you can't just add the relevancy metadata to any old schema. You'd need to create N new schemas where N is the number of other schemas you support, just to add this one bit of information. Bad. > approach b) is much better, but only if all agree that the same tag is > used inside the extraRecordData packet to carry this information, and > that all servers agree to encode it in some unified fashion. Yup. But that's the same way that anything is. > I do not have SRW on my fingertips, but I belive that there is no such > 'reserved' tag inside the 'extraRecordData' tag, and if it is not > defined by the standard, we are back to the problems of approach a). Note that my context set isn't defined by the standard either, I just wrote it yesterday and stuck it on the web. If people find it useful and implement it, that's great. If not, then I still learnt a lot about various relevance ranking algorithms while writing it :) But that's the way that anything happens in SRW/CQL. If enough people use it then it might go into a future version of the standard without needing an extraData space. But TBH, I don't think that will happen as there's a Lot of more generally useful fields that would be included before this. Compared to the Z39.50 model of 'If you show up to a ZIG, we'll put it into the spec, kk thx bye' (appropriate apologies), this ensures that only implemented and worthwhile extensions make it into the base spec, leaving a very functional but still sleek standard. Rob -- ,'/:. Dr Robert Sanderson ([log in to unmask]) ,'-/::::. http://www.o-r-g.org/~azaroth/ ,'--/::(@)::. Special Collections and Archives, extension 3142 ,'---/::::::::::. University of Liverpool ____/:::::::::::::. I L L U M I N A T I L5R Shop: http://www.cardsnotwords.com/