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Håvard Hjulstad wrote:

> JAC ballot 2004-05 - Valencian
>
> PLEASE VOTE BY 2004-08-06.
>
> Submitted by (your name, please): Eeva Murtomaa
>
> Please see below for additional information.
>
>
> (A) -- Inclusion:
>
> (1)
>
> ___ I am in favour of including "Valencian" in 639-1 (alpha-2 code)
>
> _x__ I am opposed to including "Valencian" in 639-1 (alpha-2 code)
>
> (2)
>
> ___ I am in favour of including "Valencian" in 639-2 (alpha-3 code)
>
> _x__ I am opposed to including "Valencian" in 639-2 (alpha-3 code)
>
>
> (B) -- Identifiers:
>
> (Please vote even if you are opposed to the inclusion of the item.)
>
> (3)
>
> ___ I accept the alpha-2 identifier "vl" for "Valencian" (if to be included)
>
> x___ I do not accept the alpha-2 identifier "vl" for "Valencian" -- Comment:
>
> (4)
>
> ___ I accept the alpha-3 identifier "vlc" for "Valencian" (if to be
> included)
>
> x__ I do not accept the alpha-3 identifier "vlc" for "Valencian" -- Comment:
>
>
> (C) -- Language names:
>
> (Please vote even if you are opposed to the inclusion of the item.)
>
> (5)
>
> ___ I accept the English name "Valencian"
>
> __x_ I do not accept the English name "Valencian" -- Comment:
>
> (6)
>
> ___ I accept the French name "valencien"
>
> _x__ I do not accept the French name "valencien" -- Comment:
>
> (7)
>
> ___ I accept the indigenous name "valencią"
>
> _x__ I do not accept the indigenous name "valencią" -- Comment:
>
>
> (D)
>
> Other comments:
>
> * * * * * * * * *
>
> Additional information:
>
> Please find the original submission below.
>
> During the JAC discussion that was initiated on 2004-04-05 arguments have
> been used both for and against assigning an alpha-3 identifier to this item.
> There are no submissions in favour of assigning an alpha-2 identifier.
>
> The issue lies in the relationship between the items Catalan, Valencian, and
> Balear (and possibly other related items). Currently only Catalan is encoded
> (with both alpha-2 and alpha-3 identifiers). Some view the current item
> ("Catalan") as really representing the macro language
> "Catalan-Valencian-Balear" (which is the name used in Ethnologue).
>
> There are a number of options (of which some are mentioned below). The
> present ballot is probably the most radical. Should this ballot fail,
> members will be invited to suggest other options.
>
> ORIGINAL SUBMISSION:
>
> The following message was sent to the JAC list on 2004-04-05 to initiate the
> discussion:
>
> JAC members,
>
> The question of assigning ISO 639 identifier to VALENCIAN has been discussed
> by the JAC previously. In February 2000 the issue was "deferred", both as to
> alpha-3 and alpha-2 identifier.
>
> There has been some input since then, and it seems appropriate to do a
> formal round within the entire JAC, and then have a ballot.
>
> Valecian is closely related to Catalan. Ethnologue has "CLN =
> Catalan-Valencian-Balear", and considers this item equivalent to ISO 639
> "ca/cat = Catalan". Linguasphere has "51-AAA-ed = valencią".
>
> There are several options, including:
> (A) add Valencian as an individual language, and specify that "ca/cat" does
> NOT include this item;
> (B) add Valencian AND a "macro language" "Catalan-Valencian-Balear";
> (C) specify that "ca/cat" includes Valencian;
> (D) etc.
>
> Under options A and B we need to decide whether alpha-2 identifier should be
> assigned, or just alpha-3.
>
> As to identifier: None has been formally proposed. One possible (and
> available) alpha-3 identifier is "vlc". (The apha-2 identifier "vl" is
> available.)
>