Håvard Hjulstad wrote: > JAC ballot 2004-05 - Valencian > > PLEASE VOTE BY 2004-08-06. > > Submitted by (your name, please): Eeva Murtomaa > > Please see below for additional information. > > > (A) -- Inclusion: > > (1) > > ___ I am in favour of including "Valencian" in 639-1 (alpha-2 code) > > _x__ I am opposed to including "Valencian" in 639-1 (alpha-2 code) > > (2) > > ___ I am in favour of including "Valencian" in 639-2 (alpha-3 code) > > _x__ I am opposed to including "Valencian" in 639-2 (alpha-3 code) > > > (B) -- Identifiers: > > (Please vote even if you are opposed to the inclusion of the item.) > > (3) > > ___ I accept the alpha-2 identifier "vl" for "Valencian" (if to be included) > > x___ I do not accept the alpha-2 identifier "vl" for "Valencian" -- Comment: > > (4) > > ___ I accept the alpha-3 identifier "vlc" for "Valencian" (if to be > included) > > x__ I do not accept the alpha-3 identifier "vlc" for "Valencian" -- Comment: > > > (C) -- Language names: > > (Please vote even if you are opposed to the inclusion of the item.) > > (5) > > ___ I accept the English name "Valencian" > > __x_ I do not accept the English name "Valencian" -- Comment: > > (6) > > ___ I accept the French name "valencien" > > _x__ I do not accept the French name "valencien" -- Comment: > > (7) > > ___ I accept the indigenous name "valencią" > > _x__ I do not accept the indigenous name "valencią" -- Comment: > > > (D) > > Other comments: > > * * * * * * * * * > > Additional information: > > Please find the original submission below. > > During the JAC discussion that was initiated on 2004-04-05 arguments have > been used both for and against assigning an alpha-3 identifier to this item. > There are no submissions in favour of assigning an alpha-2 identifier. > > The issue lies in the relationship between the items Catalan, Valencian, and > Balear (and possibly other related items). Currently only Catalan is encoded > (with both alpha-2 and alpha-3 identifiers). Some view the current item > ("Catalan") as really representing the macro language > "Catalan-Valencian-Balear" (which is the name used in Ethnologue). > > There are a number of options (of which some are mentioned below). The > present ballot is probably the most radical. Should this ballot fail, > members will be invited to suggest other options. > > ORIGINAL SUBMISSION: > > The following message was sent to the JAC list on 2004-04-05 to initiate the > discussion: > > JAC members, > > The question of assigning ISO 639 identifier to VALENCIAN has been discussed > by the JAC previously. In February 2000 the issue was "deferred", both as to > alpha-3 and alpha-2 identifier. > > There has been some input since then, and it seems appropriate to do a > formal round within the entire JAC, and then have a ballot. > > Valecian is closely related to Catalan. Ethnologue has "CLN = > Catalan-Valencian-Balear", and considers this item equivalent to ISO 639 > "ca/cat = Catalan". Linguasphere has "51-AAA-ed = valencią". > > There are several options, including: > (A) add Valencian as an individual language, and specify that "ca/cat" does > NOT include this item; > (B) add Valencian AND a "macro language" "Catalan-Valencian-Balear"; > (C) specify that "ca/cat" includes Valencian; > (D) etc. > > Under options A and B we need to decide whether alpha-2 identifier should be > assigned, or just alpha-3. > > As to identifier: None has been formally proposed. One possible (and > available) alpha-3 identifier is "vlc". (The apha-2 identifier "vl" is > available.) >