Although I liked your original idea, after the discussion I prefer your first option below with a very broad default context set that implies dc, bath and whatever we add. This would also imply Ray's utility. The idea of different scopes is in my view not a way to save on the number of indexes and I wouldn't mind to give different things a different name and have an for example a separate identifier index and record_id index. Ralph asked: How is dc.creator any/cql.scope=metadata "sanderson"' any better than metadata.creator any "sanderson"? I would ask why is metadata.creator better than metadatacreator ? However the concept of scope remains interesting with respect to FRBR. Theo >>> [log in to unmask] 31-8-04 14:16:57 >>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Ray Denenberg, Library of Congress wrote: > I believe SRW needs a utility index set. > An OAI record includes an identifer for the resource it describes. It's > proper to search that identifier as dc.identifier. The oai record itself has > an identifier. I don't think it's proper to cast that as a dc identifier, > scoped or not. Then we'll have two identifier (etc) indexes? There seems to me to be several options: * We could abandon the dublin core context set as being too restrictive with regards to semantics and not iso11179 compliant. Then we create a new context set with everything from DC, 11179ified, but because we control it we can add in new fields, or scope things as we want (metadata/frbr) * We keep DC but expand its description to be obvious that it's the simple dc schema but that all we're using is the base semantics of the field (eg title, creator, date) and that we reserve the right to do un-dc like things with them (eg scope to record metadata rather than record) * Status quo. The status quo actually isn't -that- bad in practice. While you can have multiple metadata scopes and multiple FRBR scopes, in practice these are fudged together. And while we might end up with lots of indexes here and there, it's what everyone is used to and the DC semantics are fairly pervasive. If DC can't do it, we add a new context set that can. Rob ,'/:. Dr Robert Sanderson ([log in to unmask]) ,'-/::::. http://www.o-r-g.org/~azaroth/ ,'--/::(@)::. Special Collections and Archives, extension 3142 ,'---/::::::::::. University of Liverpool ____/:::::::::::::. L5R Shop: http://www.cardsnotwords.com/ I L L U M I N A T I