I would like to suggest the possibility of using the word "images" in
place of "slides". I agree with those in the art and architecture realm,
that the word "slide" has a particular meaning which it would be a pity
to skew or dilute. The same might be said of "screens". If the only
access is electronic, then it seems to me that "images" describes the
manifestation more accurately.

Of course, I may be speaking from my own particular professional bias!

Thanks for your attention.

Janet A. Chin
Senior Cataloger
The ProQuest Company

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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Jimmie Lundgren
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] how would you describe this

Good Morning All,
        It sounded to me like a great idea to seek input from others in
library, so I asked a few key people that I feel really have their
on our users pulses and got the following responses from Ann Lindell of
Architecture & Fine Arts Library and Denise Bennett of our Science

From:   Denise Bennett
Subject:        RE: Physical description of remote resources

Jimmie and all:
I feel strongly that the Phys Desc field should convey useful
for the patron.  I teach patrons to observe if a book is 250 pages as
opposed to 5 or 1000, and if an article is 10 pages as opposed to 1 or
and they understand when I explain size relativity.  Therefore, I would
to see the number of slides or minutes included.

I like this one:   1 presentation (53 slides) : col., digital, HTML file
because the # of slides conveys meaning.  If the creator adds or cuts a
slides, "53" still means "not just 5" and "way less than 200".  I also
using "slides" instead of "powerpoint".  "Slides" is generic and
it avoids the "ppt" problem while making instant sense to the potential
user.  The format expands to a frames environment or to a set, where we
could use:  3 presentations (7, 53, 20 slides) : if appropriate.

 I like any of these because they include playing time (6 min vs 45 min)
well as file size (which may matter to the downloader):
1 sound file (6 min., 5.3 megabytes) : digital, stereo., mp3 file
1 sound file (6 min.) (5.3 megabytes) : digital, stereo., mp3 file
1 sound file (6 min.) : digital, stereo., mp3 file Note: File size: 5.3
1 sound file (5.3 megabytes) : digital, stereo., mp3 file Note: Playing
time: 6 min.
with a slight preference for the 1st because it's the most succint.


From:   Ann Lindell
I agree.  Physical description is important.  Especially when it
non-text, visual information.  The more detail the better! Pagination,
running-time, file type/size---All good!

As for the term "slides", over here in Architecture/Fine Arts, that word
connotes the physical, 2-inch, 35mm variety.  If we're going to use the
"slide" in the description, I'd like a qualifier: "digital slides", or
slides", etc.

--Ann Lindell

As for me, when I am using the catalog I find it helpful to know a
about what I'll be getting into if I click on a link to an electronic
resource. Those who regularly use electronic resources of specific
can be a helpful resource to advise us on how to choose a term from the
relevant chapter or a "term in common usage". Thanks for the interesting

-----Original Message-----
From: Sherman Clarke [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 5:39 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] how would you describe this

Mike and Adam,
As someone who meanders in a discipline that thought we had the
trademark on
the word slides (i.e. visual resources, aka art history slideroom
folks), I
might suggest:

1 presentation (53 slides) : col., digital, HTML file

That way, if you want, you can put PowerPoint in a note as desirable,
you get your unitary term in 300$a.

Sherman Clarke - NYU Libraries - [log in to unmask]