-----Original Message----- From: ISO JAC Voting Member List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Håvard Hjulstad Sent: Montag, 1. November 2004 08:59 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [JACVOTE] JAC ballot 2004-11 - Ainu JAC ballot 2004-11 - Ainu Please vote by 2004-11-19 Please see additional information below. Ballot submitted by (your name): Christian Galinski (A) Inclusion: (1) _x__ I am in favour of including Ainu in the alpha-3 code table of ISO 639-2. ___ I am opposed to including Ainu in the alpha-3 code table of ISO 639-2. [There is a request for an alpha-2 identifier as well. However, that will not be voted on.] Comments: I am against the inclusion of an alpha-2 identifier (B) Identifier: (2) _x__ I accept the identifier "ain". ___ I do not accept the identifier "ain". Comments: (C) Names: (3) _x__ I accept the English name "Ainu". ___ I do not accept the English name "Ainu". Comments: (4) _x__ I accept the French name "aïnou". ___ I do not accept the French name "aïnou". Comments: (5) _x__ I accept the indigenous name "ainu". ___ I do not accept the indigenous name "ainu". Comments: the indigenous name seems to bee "Ainu Itak" (where Itak means language, such as in in "nihongo" for Japanese, "zhongwen" for Chinese and in many other languages); who can confirm that "ainu" (meaning "human") also stands for the language as well as it stands for the Ainu people? (D) General comments: * * * * ORIGINAL SUBMISSION: This data was submitted on: Friday, August 13, 2004 at 06:49:36 lang_in_eng = AINU lang_in_fre = AÏNOU ref_where_found_1 = lang_in_vern = "AINU" means "human".  ref_where_found_2 = The Ainu people did not have a character. trans_lit = evidence = National Diet Library(1274) for example http://jinbunweb.sgu.ac.jp/~ainu/biblio/european.html http://www.tooyoo.l.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ichel/archive/ainu.html The AINU Museum(6000) http://www.ainu-museum.or.jp/english/english.html addinfo = AINU language: 15 active speakers (1996). In the ethnic group: about 15,000 in Japan (second language). see next URL: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=AIN http://www.helsinki.fi/~tasalmin/nasia_report.html#Ainu request_addition = ISO 639-1 and ISO 639-2 2_code_suggestion = AI 3_code_suggestion = AIN submit_name = OSADA, Takaharu submit_email = [log in to unmask] submit_status = Chairman of the Japanese National Committee for ISO/TC37/SC2 * * * * ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: This has been submitted for discussion on the JAC email list. There have been few comments, and no arguments against the alpha-3 identifier. No-one has been in favour of adding an alpha-2 identifier. The alpha-3 identifier "ain" is used for this item in draft 639-3.