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I think we were referring to the variable speed that we find on individual recordings themselves. There was a time when 33RPM wasn't really a standard...at least, a time when close was good enough to some manufacturers (and I've only seen faster recordings, like 30RPM). Steven Austin -----Original Message----- From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Hodge Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:45 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] .wav file content information Hello Steve ! Waxing nostalgically... I probably owned one model of Garrard and Collaro record changer ever built, and never found one off speed if properly maintained. Some of them had variable speed as well.- I forget the percentage of shift. Regular checks with a neon lamp and known accurate strobe disc easily confirmed this. I know this is off topic, but I felt the need. Bob Hodge >>> [log in to unmask] 3/15/2005 9:19:21 PM >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven austin" <[log in to unmask]> > (For the audiophiles: why do we still call them 78s when a good > percentage of them need to spin at another speed? How about a "variable > high-speed non-vinyl stylus-retrieved audio storage disc?" Because when three-speed changers first appeared the three choices were "33" "45" and "78" whether or not they were accurate... Steven C. Barr