Well I read the patent, if it is the same presentation. It is my opinion that in some cases the backcoating is the bad actor or certainly contributes to sticky shed problems. In particular the most severe cases where the paint literally comes of the base - seems to sometimes be because the adhesion between the backcoat and the binder is stronger then the binder and the base. I have no research to support this - just based on some experience. I am not convinced, however, that backcoating is the bad actor in most cases as the patent claims. jim * Jim Lindner * Media Matters, LLC * Email: [log in to unmask] * Address: 500 West 37th Street, 1st FL New York, N.Y. 10018 * eFax (646) 349-4475 * Mobile: (917) 945-2662 * www.media-matters.net -----Original Message----- From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Richard L. Hess Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:05 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Info on Zonal tape required There is a paper being given at ARSC about a new process for removing the back coating. Since SSS has happened, we've been told that it was just coincidental that back coating and the "bad" binder formulation happened at the same time. Indeed, some tapes that are back coated don't have the problem. I'm sure all of you have experienced "Xerox" copies that welded themselves to vinyl binders... So, Jim, do you have any further info on back coating's interaction or do we all wait for the paper at ARSC? Cheers, Richard -- Richard L. Hess http://www.richardhess.com/tape/ Quoting [log in to unmask]: > Acetate tapes never had a back coat either. Hmmm. > > jim lindner >