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Hi All, I've enjoyed the discussion and was almost convinced against the proposed policy, contrary to my longstanding desire for it. Sherman Clarke, from Art NACO almost got me completely moved with his posting on the PCC list. However, I'm holding on to my support for the proposed change. I think, however, we could word it somewhat differently, to help catalogers make judgments that are in line with the shared environment in which we work. Perhaps something like: Allow the optional addition of dates (birth, death or both) to existing personal name headings at will. (LCRI 22.17 that requires all new headings to have dates added when these are readily available). Catalogers are urged to keep in mind the requisite maintenance imposed upon (potentially) thousands of libraries when such changes are made. Please keep this workload factor in mind when considering the benefit of adding dates to existing headings. Somewhat loosey-goosey, but a lot of good faith cooperation is just that. Overall, I support the proposal. Daniel ------------- Daniel CannCasciato Head of Cataloging Central Washington University Library 400 E. University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 [log in to unmask]