In this case, I expect that evidence of 50 documents could be found.


A tangential question: are we seeing these requests from Gerard Lang because he’s working through the data tables for the DIS of 3166-1 and trying to get complete coverage in 639-2 for “official” languages of all the entities coded in 3166-1? If so, that begs a couple of questions:

- Do we need to push back harder on “official” languages being listed in 3166-1?

- Are we OK with this process of Gerard bringing us requests for 639-2 on the basis of filling out a list of “official” languages for entities coded in 3166-1?


In asking the latter question, I don’t intend that my opinion be prejudged: I asked in my response to the first request whether “official” status was a sufficient criterion for inclusion in 639-2. If we decide the answer is yes, then it’s probably reasonable to have someone conduct a review of what “official” languages are missing. The follow-on question is whether having Gerard look for gaps from his work on 3166-1 is a reasonably good way to do that.





From: ISO 639 Joint Advisory Committee [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Havard Hjulstad
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:06 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: New ISO 639 proposal - Tok Pisin - Discussion


Dear JAC members,

The request below is actually for adding an alpha-2 identifier (ISO 639-1) to an item which already has an alpha-3 identifier in ISO 639-2. The English-based Creole Tok Pisin has had the identifier tpi since publication of ISO 639-2 in 1998.

The reason for requesting an alpha-2 identifier is that the language has official status in Papua New Guinea.

The requested alpha-2 identifier (tp) is available.

Discussion please (until 2005-12-02).

Best regards,

************* Submission: **********

This data was submitted on: Thursday, September 29, 2005 at 11:09:34

lang_in_eng = Tok pisin
lang_in_fre = tok pisin
ref_where_found_1 = ISO 639-2
lang_in_vern = Pisin
ref_where_found_2 =
trans_lit =
evidence = As this language is already in OSO 639-2, it is clear that there issufficient evidence to introduce it in ISO 639-1, which is necessary because it has an official status in Papua New Guinea (see Ethnologue for example)
addinfo = See ethnologue for example
request_addition = ISO 639-1 and ISO 639-2
2_code_suggestion = tp
3_code_suggestion = tpi
submit_name = Lang Gérard
submit_email = [log in to unmask]
submit_status = Convenor of ISO/TC 46/WG 2