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You may be able to get some of it back by putting a bit of vasolene un the underside of the lifted sections- just a bit. You can then line up a groove and, if it becomes too discontinuous, you can slide it over a hair. Record what you are playing on a hard drive and paln to do considerable editing. Steve Smolian ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lennick" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Question re DuoDisc records >A lot of these very thin aluminum home recording discs are flaking, and not >just > DuoDisc. RecorDisc (orange label), Presto orange label (too bad, those > were made > by a professional company but they're just as prone) and others. As for > DuoDisc > being "quiet", any I've ever seen over the last 50 years have been so > warped and > bumpy, noise level was generally way down on the list of > attributes..getting > them to track was more of a problem, and this was in the 50s when they > couldn't > have been more than a few years old and you wonder how new ones were ever > flat > enough to be recorded on in the first place. > > There have been attempts made to re-attach flaked portions, but be aware > that if > the disc is flaking, the surface material has already shrunk and the > grooves > will never line up completely. > > dl > > David Lewis wrote: > >> Yes - I am familiar with DuoDiscs. These are cheaply made, >> instantaneous-cut >> discs. The first "homemades" I ever owned were a pair of these given to >> me >> by a family friend thirty years ago. What the correspondent calls "vinyl" >> is >> actually the lacquer coating on the outside of the aluminum center, and >> if >> it is already peeling there is little hope for it. >> >> This is a pity - Duodiscs have fairly quiet surfaces for homemades, but >> it >> appears most of the ones I see nowadays are on their way out - it appears >> 90 >> per cent of them are flaking off. And these always seemed so durable, >> unlike >> steel-base Carr-O-Tones and others which rust and usually prove >> unplayable >> anyway. As there are no established standards for handling these records, >> it >> is hard to know what to do to preserve them. The standards may well >> arrive >> too late for most DuoDiscs. >> >> My advice - record the non-flaked-off portions at a very slow speed 2 or >> 3 >> times, speed up the results and edit what's left together. You may get >> different grooves to play on different passes. >> >> David N. Lewis >> Assistant Classical Editor, All Music Guide >> >> "Contemporary composers, and at least a considerable number of them, >> explain >> what system they used, in what way they arrived at something. I do not do >> that. I think that the matter of the way by which one arrived at >> something >> is, for the listeners, unimportant. What matters is the final result, >> that >> is the work itself." -Grazyna Bacewicz, 1964 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joel Ackerman >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:47 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Question re DuoDisc records >> >> Am asked the following question: >> >> Are you familiar with those "DuoDisc" type records? They have an >> aluminum >> center (substrate) and a thin coat of vinyl (I think) on top of the >> aluminum. I believe they are records people made home recordings on. >> Anyway I have two (or three) of them and the vinyl is peeling off the >> aluminum. I was wondering if you knew anything about, perhaps, repairing >> the peel? >> >> Looking at photos, it appears that the vinyl is coming apart - cracking >> and >> heading towards eventual peeling off,. >> >> Suggestions welcome. >> >> Joel Ackerman > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/268 - Release Date: 2/23/2006 > >