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It had better really be worth it! Oh well....I once spent a couple of days transferring and editing and joining a 6-inch paper-based disc that had been bent in half. This was in the reel-to-reel days and the finished result must have had a splice every couple of inches. dl Steven Smolian wrote: > You may be able to get some of it back by putting a bit of vasolene un the > underside of the lifted sections- just a bit. You can then line up a groove > and, if it becomes too discontinuous, you can slide it over a hair. Record > what you are playing on a hard drive and paln to do considerable editing. > > Steve Smolian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lennick" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:25 AM > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Question re DuoDisc records > > >A lot of these very thin aluminum home recording discs are flaking, and not > >just > > DuoDisc. RecorDisc (orange label), Presto orange label (too bad, those > > were made > > by a professional company but they're just as prone) and others. As for > > DuoDisc > > being "quiet", any I've ever seen over the last 50 years have been so > > warped and > > bumpy, noise level was generally way down on the list of > > attributes..getting > > them to track was more of a problem, and this was in the 50s when they > > couldn't > > have been more than a few years old and you wonder how new ones were ever > > flat > > enough to be recorded on in the first place. > > > > There have been attempts made to re-attach flaked portions, but be aware > > that if > > the disc is flaking, the surface material has already shrunk and the > > grooves > > will never line up completely. > > > > dl > > > > David Lewis wrote: > > > >> Yes - I am familiar with DuoDiscs. These are cheaply made, > >> instantaneous-cut > >> discs. The first "homemades" I ever owned were a pair of these given to > >> me > >> by a family friend thirty years ago. What the correspondent calls "vinyl" > >> is > >> actually the lacquer coating on the outside of the aluminum center, and > >> if > >> it is already peeling there is little hope for it. > >> > >> This is a pity - Duodiscs have fairly quiet surfaces for homemades, but > >> it > >> appears most of the ones I see nowadays are on their way out - it appears > >> 90 > >> per cent of them are flaking off. And these always seemed so durable, > >> unlike > >> steel-base Carr-O-Tones and others which rust and usually prove > >> unplayable > >> anyway. As there are no established standards for handling these records, > >> it > >> is hard to know what to do to preserve them. The standards may well > >> arrive > >> too late for most DuoDiscs. > >> > >> My advice - record the non-flaked-off portions at a very slow speed 2 or > >> 3 > >> times, speed up the results and edit what's left together. You may get > >> different grooves to play on different passes. > >> > >> David N. Lewis > >> Assistant Classical Editor, All Music Guide > >> > >> "Contemporary composers, and at least a considerable number of them, > >> explain > >> what system they used, in what way they arrived at something. I do not do > >> that. I think that the matter of the way by which one arrived at > >> something > >> is, for the listeners, unimportant. What matters is the final result, > >> that > >> is the work itself." -Grazyna Bacewicz, 1964 > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List > >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joel Ackerman > >> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:47 PM > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Question re DuoDisc records > >> > >> Am asked the following question: > >> > >> Are you familiar with those "DuoDisc" type records? They have an > >> aluminum > >> center (substrate) and a thin coat of vinyl (I think) on top of the > >> aluminum. I believe they are records people made home recordings on. > >> Anyway I have two (or three) of them and the vinyl is peeling off the > >> aluminum. I was wondering if you knew anything about, perhaps, repairing > >> the peel? > >> > >> Looking at photos, it appears that the vinyl is coming apart - cracking > >> and > >> heading towards eventual peeling off,. > >> > >> Suggestions welcome. > >> > >> Joel Ackerman > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/268 - Release Date: 2/23/2006 > > > >