On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Marie O'Connell wrote: > I will take a photo of the offending AGFA PEM 469 and forward it, if you are > interested. It really was one of the worst cases of shedding that I have > come across, but I still got audio from it, amazingly enough. Ah, my favorite teaching example, PEM 469! In an attempt to avoid the problems associated with Ampex products, I ordered some of the AGFA. This was about 15 years ago. Within five years it began to "ooze" terribly. Just a few feet of it caused the machine to stop. Fortunately, baking worked. Karl