The archival gold DVD-R has a gold metal reflective layer, but the dye is not phthalocyanine. The archival gold CD-R uses a gold metal reflective layer and stable phthalocyanine dye and is very stable. Therefore, the relative stability of the gold DVD-R versus the gold CD-R is less and potentially considerably less. If you decide to go with a DVD recordable product, then I would recommend the gold metal layered discs over the silver alloy ones as the gold does protect against oxidation of the metal layer. I do plan to test the gold DVD-Rs in the future to see where on the relative stability scale they actually fall. MAM sells this archival gold DVD-R product. Delkin and Kodak also sell MAM media under their brand name. All are good quality. Joe Karl Miller <[log in to unmask] TEXAS.EDU> To Sent by: [log in to unmask] Association for cc Recorded Sound Discussion List Subject <[log in to unmask] Re: [ARSCLIST] Further thoughts on > the new CLIR report. DVDs 24/03/2006 09:55 AM Please respond to Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask] > On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Steven Smolian wrote: > It follows that archivally-intended projects for which the final storage medium is the DVD should also be preserved at 44.1/16 on gold CDs until there is a gold DVD on the market. I believe MAM makes an "archival" Gold DVD-R which sells for about $90 for fifty. However, I still support the notion of the 44.1/16 gold 650MB disc backup because of the availability and standardization of the playback modality. Karl