I don't have my tracing of these matters to hand at the present, but it is clear that Warner took back the Columbia Brunswick materials which it had let them use on a royalty basis. Columbia defaulted on its royalties. I don't believe they ever "belonged" to Columbia. Steve Smolian ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lennick" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Copyright and Marston Records > To clarify my earlier comment about Savoy, it lays claim to the entire > Varsity > catalog and all Crown masters on the basis of having licensed some > ("some") > Varsity sides in the 40s. And Universal's archive includes more than early > Brunswicks..all English Deccas from 1929 as well as any older labels that > company absorbed in the 30s, all Polydor and DGG, etc. > > Isn't there also some speculation that Sony/BMG might not really own the > 1932-1939 Brunswick/ARC assets (which were in fact owned by Warner > Brothers? > > dl > > Steven Smolian wrote: > >> Not to mention Edison which is public domain as it is owned by the U.S. >> National Parks Service and the government cannot own a copyright. >> >> Steve Smolian >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Lennick" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:42 PM >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Copyright and Marston Records >> >> > Bob Olhsson wrote: >> > >> >> >I hope details will be forthcoming, especially if they can serve as a >> >> >badly needed licensing model for US companies. >> >> > >> >> >> >> There are no US companies for the early stuff and little need for a >> >> licensing model because Sony/BMG owns everything EMI doesn't and they >> >> both own a lot of it jointly. Universal kicks in during the '30s. >> > >> > Nope..Universal owns Brunswick's pre-1932 catalog so it goes back to >> > the >> > late 1910s whether it knows it or not. >> > >> >> Independent label ownership only begins in the '40s when the last of >> >> the >> >> electrical recording patents expired. >> > >> > Crown, Hit of the Week, Grey Gull are among the more prominent >> > independent >> > labels and as far as I know, all are orphaned (despite the claims that >> > Crown went to Oberstein and everything Obie owned became part >> > of Savoy). >> > >> > dl >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/282 - Release Date: >> > 3/15/2006 >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/282 - Release Date: 3/15/2006 >