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I agree that we should not code alpha-2, but have no objection to including frp in 639-2. Peter ________________________________ From: ISO 639 Joint Advisory Committee [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Håvard Hjulstad Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:47 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: New ISO 630 proposal - Arpitan; Francoprovençal - disc ussion Dear JAC members, The proposal below has been submitted some time ago. As far as I can understand it is the item that is encoded "frp" (Franco-Provençal) in Ethnologue and ISO 639-3. Ethnologue has as alternate names Patois and Arpitan. The proposer asks for an alpha-2 identifier as well. I would suggest that we do not include it in the alpha-2 table. The question is then whether the item should be "moved" from 639-3 to 639-2. Discussion please (until 14 April). Best regards, Håvard ******** ORIGINAL SUBMISSION ****** This data was submitted on: Thursday, August 4, 2005 at 04:10:36 lang_in_eng = Arpitan, Francoprovençal lang_in_fre = Arpitan, Francoprovençal, Savoyard ref_where_found_1 = http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpitan lang_in_vern = Arpitan, Savoyârd, Patouès ref_where_found_2 = http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpitan trans_lit = evidence = Académie chablaisienne (70), Centre de la Culture Savoyarde (nd), Centre de dialectologie de Neuchâtel (more than 50)... See also "anthology francoprovençale" by Dominique Stich addinfo = 80 000 speakers in Italy (Val d'Aosta - official, Piemont, Pouilles), Switzerland (Geneva, Valais, Neuchâtel, Fribourg, Vaud), France (Savoy, Lyonnais, Franche-Comté Sud, Bresse, Forez...). request_addition = ISO 639-1 and ISO 639-2 2_code_suggestion = ap 3_code_suggestion = arp submit_name = Arban Lavy submit_email = [log in to unmask] submit_status = President of Arpitan Culture Alliance (Aliance culturèla arpitana), Lausanne