Even newer time... I used to work at George Massenburgh's old studios in LA
(The Complex:

MANY big artists came through there and a huge storage/file room was full
when I left in 1999...

I got a call from the Traffics Manager in 2002 and she told me that a
Mexican Television station had bought the place. I was (and I'm still)
interested in old master recordings, so she asked if I wanted all the tapes
in the vault... Well, I was just starting Xepa Digital at the time (and was
starting to understand the ownership issues with masters) and had no
practical way to handle the collection so it ended up in the dumpster...

It happens in even the most sophisticated recording venues...


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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] The future of analog (fwd)

Not to mention stories I heard from the older broadcasters back home, where
literally hundreds, if not thousands of discs were just dumped at the local
rubbish (garbage) dump.  "We didn't have the space", or "they weren't
important".  Give me a break!  They were not archivists.

My sixpence worth (even though we do have decimal

Quoting Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>:

> I heard worse stories than this about Hollywood. There was a time -- 50's
> 60's, when there was a
> rapid upgrade period and much fantastic/built-like-tanks audio gear was
> off. But, the rule at
> some studios was SMASH IT TO BITS so competitors couldn't get it from the
> scrap heap and "use it
> against you." I heard one story of taking a whole afternoon and smashing
> hundreds of pieces of
> Western Electric and Langevin gear. Today's ebay value on that stuff even
> beats inflation since it
> was built. Plus it was damn good-sounding stuff that's not made anymore.
> -- Tom Fine
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Hodge" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] The future of analog (fwd)
> Sorry ( in a way ) that I have no pictures to back up this story,
> but a friend of mine, Mr. William Stanmyre, now deceased, who was an audio
> engineer at the Paramount
> Astoria studios and later in Hollywood told me of the amount of cast off
> microphones, disc cutters,
> preamps and other ancillary production equipment that could be had for the
> asking as it was on its'
> way to the scrap heap in the late 1930's through  the 1940's and 50's.
>  Fortunately he managed to retain a few things over the years which he
> on to me when he
> retired to Florida.
> I'd like to believe that somone on the lot will give one those tape
> a berth, and a host of
> reparable boards and parts to keep it operational in the future.
> Bobv Hodge
> Robert Hodge,
> Senior Engineer
> Belfer Audio Archive
> Syracuse University
> 222 Waverly Ave .
> Syracuse N.Y. 13244-2010
> 315-443- 7971
> FAX-315-443-4866
> >>> [log in to unmask] 5/31/2006 3:05 PM >>>
> My thoughts exactly.This looks like this equipment was free for the
> you could beat the
> garbage truck to it.One wonders is this is how the indie labels of the
> 90s,got the equipment to make
> thier great analogue records in the 90s.
>   Roger Kulp
> Lou Judson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>   Dumpster diving royale!
> Lou Judson * Intuitive Audio
> 415-883-2689
> On May 30, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Scott Phillips wrote:
> > Sick. MTR-90's ...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Karl Miller
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:23 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [ARSCLIST] The future of analog (fwd)
> >
> > Sent to me by a friend...
> >
> > Karl
> >
> > A photo from earlier this month from the Warner Brothers studios in Los
> > Angeles.
> >
> >
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Marie O'Connell
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Center for Oral History & Cultural Heritage
University of Southern Mississippi
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