I was impressed with your postings on the LC series decisions. You
showed a concern with both detailed and "macro" issues. I was
particularly impressed by your willingness to get a little bit
autobiographical in the "Dealing with conflict" message. Here's one
passage I wanted to respond to:


"[O]ur profession is too meek. Disagreement is discouraged, particularly
in public fora. Conflicts are avoided. Strong sentiments are often met
with condescension. We often mutter to ourselves or complain to
colleagues about some other person or organization, but often won't
constructively engage the other. Some members of our community value
niceness over new ideas, risk-taking, or challenging each other. This
has got to stop. This is not going to move us forward as a profession."


I agree strongly with that statement, with one exception, and hope we
will stop to consider it. I was considering sending a message this
afternoon on the same matter. Here's an excerpt:


"In my scant 5 years in librarianship (or maybe 7 if you count library
school), I have seen two attitudes among librarians that are often
confused. I think one is good and the other, not always.  


"1) Be helpful.

"2) Get along with others.


"Helpfulness is one of the real bases of librarianship and the reason we
have a truly "noble profession." We are people who really care about
others' needs and work to fill them if possible. We care about more than
the "bottom line." We're satisfied to earn smaller salaries than people
in some comparable professions because we love our work. But too often,
I think librarians, in their desire to be helpful, think that ducking
controversy is the best way to do it." [end quote]


Where I may disagree with you is the part about "valuing niceness over
new ideas, risk-taking . . ." On the contrary, in the time I've been in
librarianship, I've heard "change is the only constant" repeated ad
nauseam. To respond to your message below, when has anyone on this list
ever refused to "give our process and metadata elements a good, hard
look"? When I critiqued the Calhoun and California reports, I quoted
from particular passages in them. I read those reports. I did the
RedLightGreen searches that were described in the California report.  I
never refused to examine the proposals presented there because I
"resisted change and insisted on the importance of traditional values."
I don't think I'm unique in that. I see no evidence that criticisms on
this list have to do with "resistance to change," unless change is seen
as an end in itself.  Then it's true, we are resisting change.    

On the contrary, I see librarians' excessive "niceness" as manifested
more in a readiness to give up important library values than in fear of
"new ideas."  I particularly recommend to anybody who hasn't read it the
article "The bookless future" by David Bell in the May 2, 2005 New
Republic. I think I can escape suspicion of being biased in this
recommendation, because Bell actually accepts the "optimistic" views of
the power of digitization and keyword searches that Calhoun and the
California reports espouse.  But unlike them, Bell's article is
remarkable for the degree to which it shows the downside of rushing to
digitization, electronic publishing, and keyword searches.  His
pro-digital stance is almost convincing, but I came away from the
article all the more convinced that libraries and our whole society are
threatened by excessive faith in it.  Here's one really powerful

"The very nature of the computer presents a different problem. If
physical discomfort discourages the reading of texts sequentially, from
start to finish, computers make it spectacularly easy to move through
texts in other ways--in particular, by searching for particular pieces
of information. Reading in this strategic, targeted manner can feel
empowering. Instead of surrendering to the organizing logic of the book
you are reading, you can approach it with your own questions and glean
precisely what you want from it. You are the master, not some dead
author. And this is precisely where the greatest dangers lie, because
when reading, you should not be the master. Information is not
knowledge; searching is not reading; and surrendering to the organizing
logic of a book is, after all, the way one learns. [Italics mine]

"If my own experience is any guide, "search-driven" reading can make for
depressingly sloppy scholarship. Recently, I decided to examine the way
in which the radical eighteenth-century thinker d'Holbach discussed
warfare. I could have read his book Universal Morality in the rare-book
room of my university library, but I decided instead to download a copy
(it took about two minutes). And then, faced with a text hundreds of
pages long, instead of reading from start to finish, I searched for the
words "war" and "peace." I found a great many juicy quotations, which I
conveniently cut and pasted directly into my notes. But at the end, I
had very little idea of why d'Holbach had written his book in the first
place. If I had had to read the physical book, I could still have
skimmed, cut, and pasted, but I would have been forced to confront the
text as a whole at some basic level. The computer encouraged me to read
in exactly the wrong way, leaving me with little but a series of
disembodied passages." 

Bear with me as I pass on one more gem from Bell's article. Bell is a
historian, and another fascinating thing he points out is that if you
think of our current developments as a "digital revolution," something
that will change how people read books, this isn't just a new step from
the printing revolution of 5-6 centuries ago, but really involves
replacing the way we've been reading for about 1,600 years. The "codex"
or book with pages on separate sheets and bound together was invented
about the 4th century. The printing revolution only changed how you
create codices, not the reading format. Do we really expect that little
digital book readers are going to replace that any time soon? 

Bell says we should "bite the bullet" and accept digitization as the
future and spend a lot of our resources on making the technology of
reading online more comfortable.  But as one politician put the matter
(rather crudely) once, "if you make 9 women pregnant, you're not going
to get a baby in 1 month."  Things take time. Why should we think that
an information format that has worked for over 1,600 years is going to
be replaced within the next few years? 

I know that's pretty far afield from where this message started, but I
do think all of these matters are connected.

            --Ted Gemberling, UAB Lister Hill Library, Birmingham, Ala. 


From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Paul J. Weiss
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] "Culture wars" in cataloging


I agree with David that we in the cataloging/metadata communities are at
a point at which many of our philosophies and practices are undergoing
upheaval; we do need to change our community culture. But, as with
recent US presidential elections, I think it is an oversimplification to
view the cataloging community as being split into two camps. The reality
is much more complex than that. There are many in the community who
welcome the idea of giving our process and metadata elements a good,
hard look. Most of the catalogers I talk to actually are excited by the
possibilities before us. I think what you are sensing is that there is a
desire for more rationality in decision-making.

I agree that front-line staff want to and should participate in our
rethinking of cataloging. Dialog works both ways; if LC is not entering
into true dialog, of course catalogers feel shut out.

Yes, there are indeed some for whom "moving away from the old practices
is being met with fierce resistance". But I think David and others
misread the community as a whole. It is not so much old _practices_ that
are being safeguarded, but core values and philosophies

Statements in David's message below such as:
     "The discussions would need focus lest they turn into rambling
gripe sessions about the end of the world."
     "It is more appealing [for some] to 
serve to further exacerbate the polarization that is being deplored in
other parts of the message.


At 2006/05/24 09:15 a, you wrote:

All:  I sent a slightly different version of this message to the PCC
Policy Committee earlier today.  I've been asked to share it beyond that
group.  Here it is.

The flurry of messages on the various lists concerning LC's series
treatment decision has been an interesting look at the current (mental)
state of the profession.  LC's announcement, coming on the heels of a
number of other significant developments --the reports from Karen
Calhoun, the University of California, and Indiana University, as well
as the merger of RLG and OCLC, have certainly brought a lot of heat, if
not always a great deal of light, to the ongoing discussion of the
future of cataloging and library catalogs.  

That two camps with widely divergent views exist is quite obvious. The
sharp reactions on both sides indicate to me that we are in the thick of
a major transition.  We might think of this as a "culture war" within
cataloging, with each side trying to (re)claim the purpose and nature of
cataloging and catalogs for both present and future.  The more
conservative forces, which seem to include many front-line staff, are
vigorously (sometimes stridently) defending the status quo, or even the
status quo ante; others, primarily managers and administrators, are
trying to move away from the old models toward something very different.
The challenge for folks in the latter group is that they don't --indeed,
can't--know exactly where all of this will lead.  A gulf of uncertainty
created by the inherently unknowable nature of this future has become
patently evident these last few weeks.  That the uncertainty threatens
many whose professional identities and notions of worth hinge on the
indefinite continuation of the status quo accounts for much of the
emotion surrounding the debates here and elsewhere.

To use an imperfect but illustrative analogy, cataloging today resembles
the welfare states of Europe. Like contemporary Germany or France, it is
marked by high labor costs and a high degree of regulation; is heavily
bureaucratized in the form of a vast array of professional groups and
institutional committees; and it has a rapidly aging population.  Its
prospects for long-term growth in a very dynamic global information
economy are dim unless significant structural changes are made.  Like
many political and business leaders in Europe, most library leaders have
identified the problems and know what needs to be done, at least
generally.  But they also realize that for the most part, the staff do
not want change.  Like life in the European welfare states, the
professional environment for catalogers has been comfortable and secure.
The rules of the trade may be elaborate and the bureaucracy can be
stifling, but mastery of both brings to many practitioners a strong
sense of satisfaction and the comfort of community.  Indeed, the
community been especially valuable as a support for its members as the
pressure to become more efficient  (and thus to re-evaluate the need for
traditional practices) has increased.   To exchange that existence for
one filled with risk and uncertainty, even if the status quo seems
unsustainable, is not something the majority are prepared to do.  It is
more appealing to resist the change and insist on the importance of
traditional values than to engage thoughtfully in a discussion about the

My unsolicited advice for the PoCo is not to fall into the trap of
arguing with the people most threatened by change.  The debate is
surrounded by far too much emotion to be productive.  Instead, I think
that the PCC leadership should think carefully about what kinds of roles
catalogers will have in the future.  They need to gather feedback,
listen closely, and allow for open discussions to take place.  A genuine
dialogue must occur; if the opinions are solicited only to be ignored,
the process will be nothing more than a cynical facade, and it will most
certainly backfire.   If front-line folks feel they are part of the
planning process, they may be much less likely to resist and much more
likely to become engaged.  We must also remember that in looking to the
future, the past must be honored and respect.  Traditional cataloging
has served many library users well for decades.  The principles
underlying those practices remain valid today.  We must be careful not
to disparage those principles even as we seek to move away from the old
practices that hinder our ability to respond to rapidly changing user
expectations, that have higher opportunity costs than value, or both.
But we must also look forward.  Honoring the past does not mean living
in it, nor does it mean squandering opportunities for the future to
placate the disgruntled staff of the present.  

The statements from the ALA Executive Board about the LC series
decision, Thomas Mann's rebuttal of Karen Calhoun's report, the many,
many messages on AUTOCAT and other lists about both topics, and even
Michael Gorman's most recent column in American Libraries, bemoaning the
state of library education (he believes it's not traditional enough)
strongly suggest that moving away from the old practices is being met
with fierce resistance.  It's obvious that library leaders who seek
meaningful changes in the way we work have their work cut out for them.
What is not so easy to see is how to bridge the gap between those who
wish to move to a different way of looking at cataloging and catalogs
and those who feel too threatened by change to consider reforms anything
but heresy or betrayal.  If the PCC wishes to diffuse some of the heat
surrounding these issues--and I am hopeful it does--then PoCo needs to
be thinking very carefully about how it can help to bridge this gap.  I
believe Joan Swanekamp has pointed out that the strategic plan calls for
PCC to assist catalogers in this time of transition.  I think there can
be no issue of greater importance.    

But how to do it?  Obviously (pace Hamlet) that is the question, and
unfortunately, no one has the definitive answer to it.  But perhaps
there are few things that could be done now.  Holding open forums at the
PCC membership meetings to gather the kind of feedback I mention above
are simple to do and would help community members air their views.  The
discussions would need focus lest they turn into rambling gripe sessions
about the end of the world.  The community has people who could lead
such discussions skillfully and productively.  PCC should also consider
taking a more active role in gathering real evidence to inform decisions
about cataloging through thorough and ongoing user studies.   Anecdotal
evidence alone is not sufficient to justify continuing a given practice,
but the debate is filled with assertions that "our users rely on X to do
their work."  A partnership with appropriate groups across specialty
lines would seem the most logical way to handle this.  Having examples
of projects in member institutions where catalogers' skills are being
put to use outside of the traditional MARC/AARC2-based universe may also
help illustrate that there is indeed life after the card catalog, ISBD
punctuation, and series tracings, at least for those who want it.  

I realize these are only a few suggestions, but I think if PCC is to
demonstrate a true leadership role, it will have to move beyond reaction
to change or mitigating the "damage" caused by changes in practice.
Thanks for your attention.  


David Banush
Head, Cataloging Services
Subject Specialist, Bibliography, Information and Library Science
Library Technical Services
Cornell University Library
110D Olin Library
Ithaca, NY 14853

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Paul J. Weiss
Catalog Librarian and NACO Coordinator
Metadata Services Department
UCSD Libraries
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