All I could find was this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-DV-563A-DVD-RW-CD-SACD-VCD-MP3-DVD-PLAYER_W0QQitemZ230003728886QQihZ013QQcategoryZ64583QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
They stopped production sometime last year. Good luck finding an
equivalent.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Stephens" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Longevity
> Hey Phillip,
>
> Are you tongue in cheek about the $140 player? If not, I'd like to know
> what brand/model it is. For that amount, I'd like to try SACD, especially
> if you say it sounds good.
>
> Rod Stephens
>
> P.S. I've got a Best Buy up the road even though we're a small town.
>
> phillip holmes wrote:
>
>> Hey Tom,
>> Stop picking on me. And the CD player cost $140. And I got it from Best
>> Buy. It also plays SACD and DVDA pretty good. Actually, the SACD
>> playback is fantastic for what it is. I still don't think this CD thing
>> is going to make it. MP3 is going to rule. All you suckers who adopted
>> CD are going to be like all those early adopters of stereo. The joke's
>> on you losers!
>> Besides, I got my $10,000 turntable for 1/3 of MSRP. I'm no sucker!
>> Phillip (tongue in cheek, if you couldn't tell).
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fine"
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Longevity
>>
>>
>>> Yes, this whole fingerprint thing reminds me of the audiophool with the
>>> $10K record player and the $50 Chinese Wal-Mart CD player claiming LPs
>>> "always" sound better and CDs "always" sound "terrible."
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, I borrow, play and sometimes make personal-use
>>> copies of circulated library CD's and DVD's all the time. We're talking
>>> fingerprints galore and scratches to boot, plus usually some sort of
>>> off-center stick-on library label to potentially effect playback
>>> mechanics. Never had a problem, using typical consumer DVD players and
>>> Plextor drives in the computer. I had a DVD last week ("Battle of
>>> Algiers" -- superb movie, highly recommended, DVD reissue is excellent)
>>> that had a pinhole chunk chipped out of the edge. It played perfectly --
>>> I tested every bit of the DVD because I was curious if there was a data
>>> problem from the chunk. It was all scratched up too.
>>>
>>> -- Tom Fine
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome Hartke"
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 7:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Longevity
>>>
>>>
>>>> Moving away from opinions, our testing laboratory has conducted tests
>>>> on
>>>> both CD and DVD discs containing such defects, both of our own
>>>> fabrication
>>>> and obtained from Philips Laboratories. Results are as described in my
>>>> initial contribution.
>>>>
>>>> Simple fingerprints should never interfere with playback unless the
>>>> read
>>>> drive is of very poor quality. The real risk of fingerprints is in the
>>>> oils
>>>> from the body. Those of each person are distinct, and some can degrade
>>>> discs
>>>> over an extended period of time.
>>>>
>>>> Jerry
>>>> Media Sciences, Inc.
>>>> http://www.mscience.com/
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alex Hartov
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 5:58 PM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Longevity
>>>>>
>>>>> That is part of the hype. You try it. I know from experience that a
>>>>> simple finger print will mess up playback on either CD or DVD. I
>>>>> don't know where the notion of a whole in the CD/DVD being
>>>>> recoverable comes from but it's definitely nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 2, 2006, at 5:31 PM, phillip holmes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >> CD and DVD error detection and correction algorithms will "play"
>>>>> >> discs with
>>>>> >> 2 mm diameter holes. Some DVD systems require a 6 mm defect before
>>>>> >> data loss
>>>>> >> occurs, and the problem is then loss of servo lock by the read
>>>>> >> drive. Can
>>>>> >> 78s do this?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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