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H�vard and All,

On June 8, I sent the forms and instructions for submitting a change proposal for 639-3 to J�v� Sull�v, but I have not had any further correspondence. I did so at that time because there was some correspondence with our Ethnologue staff regarding the status of V�ro and inquiries they had made last year. The messages between you of 19 Sept. indicate that there must have been some disconnect. I realize that you, H�vard, would not have known that I wrote to her, informing her of the ISO 639-3 process (tentative at that time), but her response (and lack of further correspondence with me) shows that she probably did not understand that I was recommending that she complete the change request forms and submit them. Shall I pursue this with her directly?

The message I wrote in June is rather lengthy, so I did not copy it here. I'll send it on if you'd like to see it.

-Joan


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09/21/2006 02:26 AM
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The message below is forwarded to the ISO 639 RAs-JAC. Any comments from JAC members? The item should probably be processed according to the rules of ISO 639-3.

Best regards,
H�vard

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-----Original Message-----
From: J�v� Sull�v [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:01 PM
To: H�vard Hjulstad
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Subject: Re: ISO 639 encoding proposal: V�ro

Dear H�vard Hjulstad,

Thank you for the information. I hope the Advisory Committee will decide the case positively and V�ro will get its ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-3 language codes soon. Can you tell me when it can happen and when the new codes will be published? If there are questions about the language or more information/evidences needed please ask me.

Best regards,
Sulev Iva/J�v� Sull�v
researcher of the
V�ro Institute
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19.09.2006 14:03:26, H�vard  Hjulstad <[log in to unmask]> kirot':

>
>  Teema:  ISO 639 encoding proposal: V�ro
>
>  Kuup�iv:Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:03:26 +0200
>  Kink    H�vard Hjulstad <[log in to unmask]>
>  k�est:
>  Kohe:   <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]>
>  Kopi:   "Rebecca S. Guenther" <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
>
>  Dear Sulev Iva,
>  
>  Your proposal to encode "V�ro" in ISO 639-1 and ISO 639-2 has been
> received  long ago and discussed by the ISO 639 RAs Joint Advisory
> Committee (JAC). I  am sorry that the proposal has been very long in the pipeline.
>  
>  Part of the reason for the delay is the finalization of ISO 639-3,
> which  extends the alpha-3 language code to include some 7000
> languages. That part  of ISO 639 will become an International Standard very soon.
>  
>  ISO 639-3 does not currently include V�ro as an individual language,
> but  treats it as a dialect of Estonian. Please see
> http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=est and follow the
> link to the Ethnologue database for  documentation of how the item is encoded in ISO 639-3.
>  
>
>  ISO 639 RAs-JAC has decided not to accept the proposal to encode the
> item in  ISO 639-1 (alpha-2 identifier).
>  
>  Following the publication of ISO 639-3 the JAC will decide between
> the  following options:
>
>  (1) Consider it a dialect, which would not be encoded in ISO 639-3
> (or ISO  639-2);
>  (2) Consider it an individual language and encode it in ISO 639-3,
> utilizing  the procedures that have been specified for that part;
>
>  (3) Encode it also in ISO 639-2 following the encoding in ISO 639-3.
>  
>  All supporting evidence is being kept on file. The JAC recognizes
> that  submitted evidence makes it a strong case for option 2 or 3.
>  
>  Please send any comment to me and I shall forward it to the JAC for  
> consideration.
>  
>  Best regards,
>  H�vard Hjulstad
>  (secretary ISO 639 RAs-JAC)
>  
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