At Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:56:49 +0200, Janifer Gatenby <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > This question was posed several times. Thank you kindly for your reply. I am having trouble finding where on the archive these questions were asked. Again, I realize that it is very rude to post at so late a date such a fundamental question about SRU update. However, I do feel that it would be very helpful if ZNG defined (at least in addition to the SOAP update) a simple, HTTP-based, update mechanism. I think that the overwhelming success of SRU over SRW indicates that developers find HTTP based solutions easier to deal with than SOAP ones. > Update mechanisms like WebDav that use HTTP PUT, POST and DELETE > rely on HTTP diagnostics and it seems quite an effort to get > influence to create new diagnostics here. HTTP diagnostics are too > limited for updating metadata. Yes, this is true. There is no way that HTTP 1.1 will be changed for SRU. However, there is no reason why you cannot use the following as responses: 400 Bad Request X-SRU-Diagnostics: 1. Invalid component: record rejected. ... 400 Bad Request X-SRU-Diagnostics: 2. Invalid component: component rejected ... 404 Not Found X-SRU-Diagnostics: 50. Record not found (replacement or delete) ... In other words, there is no reason that you can’t extend the granularity of the HTTP response codes with some of your own, as long as the HTTP response codes are broadly correct. In addition, the WEBDAV standard defines unilateral extensions to the HTTP response codes in section 10 of RFC 2518. That is, they are defined in the context of WEBDAV and not for other HTTP standards, and so did not have to change the HTTP standard. > Most update mechanisms are focussed on document updating > and sharing documents. They miss elmenets that are important to > metadata catalogues and repositories such as aligning control > numbers, authority linking, linking multiple language versions etc. I don’t see where these features are defined in this draft. > In addition, the focus is on the client having update power, whereas > with SRU update, the power is more or less shared. The client is > making a suggestion and the server ingests it as best suits the > database, hence the need for interactive diagnostics and the > employment of POST rather than the more specific PUT, etc. There is no reason that PUT cannot return a modified version of what was sent to the server, or a completely different format, etc. There is also no reason why POST cannot be used in a simpler way without the entire SOAP stack of standards. In other words: --> POST /sru Host: example.org Content-Type: application/x-xml+dc <dc> <title>A document</title> </dc> <-- 201 Created X-SRU-Diagnostics: 33. Record schema unacceptable: record converted Location: http://example.org/records/1 Content-Type: application/x-xml+mods <mods xmlns="http://www.loc.gov/mods/v3"> <titleInfo> <title>A document</title> </titleInfo> </mods:mods> Again, thanks for the response. best, Erik Hetzner