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uhhhmmm...be careful it's not a "recycled" or 'previously-evaluated' product. If it's been registered before by someone, you'll probably have a problem getting it licensed to work on your own machine(s)....and even then, Sony's strict about the number of 'your' machines that can operate the product. Mark Durenberger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Phillips" <[log in to unmask]> Check the web, I found a site that sold v8 along with the noise reduction plugin as a new package for barely more than the upgrade price for SF from Sony. The NR plugin price by itself is normally more than SF alone....!