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I'd have to go with Steve's conclusion that if moisture got a foothold
anywhere in the surface, the freezing would cause it expand and break
the disc or wax cylinder. Especially if the records were never touched.
Unfortunately, I don't believe dessicant would have helped in a severly
cold atmosphere as the moisture has to be part of a warm atmospheric 
environment to work.  

Bob  Hodge

Robert Hodge,
Senior Engineer
Belfer Audio Archive
Syracuse University
222 Waverly Ave .
Syracuse N.Y. 13244-2010

315-443- 7971
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>>> [log in to unmask] 2/14/2007 9:53 PM >>>
Hi Bob,

<sarcasm>Do tell</sarcasm>.I had a terrible experience a few years
back,where my 78s were in an unheated room for most of one winter.I came
back in the spring,and lost at least a dozen to breakage,and I never
touched them.Among them,one of the records from my Siemens Von Karajan
set,my Ray Charles "Kissa Me Baby",on Swing Time,and my Argentine Decca
"El Rocko",by Bill Haley.Do they expand and contract or something ?


                                 Roger

Robert Hodge <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Hello Barbara,

I have worked with large collections of shellac discs stored in
unheated
outbuildings. As long as critters are kept out of them and they remain
dry, they never audibly degrade !! At least that's my experience. 

Of course, cold shellac or wax is extremely prone to breakage due to
brittleness !! Double that for wax amberol cylinders !!

The dessicant would be a good idea for wax cylinders. 
But then I wouldn't store wax cylinders or shellac anywhere where I
myself could not live !!

Bob Hodge


         
>>> [log in to unmask] 2/13/2007 3:17 PM >>>
Language Archives wrote:
> I have to pack up my archive for storage in the University library
while 
> construction happens around my space. I was asked about the need to
put 
> (advisability of putting) desiccant in with the recordings. I don't
know 
> for certain how long they will be in boxes--we may unpack them for 
> access on the other end, and while they think construction will end
in 
> August, who knows!

I suspect that it will be important to know two things: what sort of 
material (cylinders, 78s, lacquers, LPs, ??); what sort of storage 
environment.

Mike
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Robert Hodge,
Senior Engineer
Belfer Audio Archive
Syracuse University
222 Waverly Ave .
Syracuse N.Y. 13244-2010

315-443- 7971
FAX-315-443-4866



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