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Hi Steve: There was a great cartoon during the World Cup, left pane was "what Americans think of European 'football'," showing a bunch of skinny guys running with purses and fancy shoes kicking a soccer ball. The other pane was "what Europeans think of American 'football,'" showing something akin to a barbarian death-match with fists and weapons flying. -- Tom Fine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Smolian" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Some YouTube stuff that may be of interst > Tom, I wouldn't know about this if I weren't a fan. > > Most close friends know I have a "do not call" policy in place on approriate days during football > season. > > As a professional eBayer, I also know not to end auctions during significant sporting events. I'm > bidding on three auctions closing tomorrow during the game. The sellers are all Europeans. What > do they know about fancy football? > > Steve Smolian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fine" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Some YouTube stuff that may be of interst > > >> NFL Films is a vast enterprise. Every game has been filmed/taped/recorded since the early 60's >> and probably before that. They have a large production staff, and probably work in conjunction >> with team scouting/production staff. Remember that each team also has a well-funded media >> department and dissecting "film" of the previous games and of the upcoming opponent are >> long-established parts of football. Given the NFL's reputation for well-funded, well-staffed and >> efficient media/marketing, they are probably on the vanguard of how to do this for maximum >> profitability. Also, the NFL is a showcase of a commercial organization that values and contantly >> profits from its history and archived media. Indeed, its marketing legitimacy (and much of its >> popularity in mainstream America) is based on the tradition and history. Big Music could spend >> years at the school of how to do it right by interning with the NFL. >> >> BTW, the NFL is a fascinating thing in and of itself. The league is the most socialist of sports >> organization, with most revenue shared between highly profitable large-market teams and >> not-so-profitable small-market teams, and it is the most financially successful. The lucrative TV >> package is what subsidizes the small-market teams and the draft rules and salary cap maintain >> rough parity so in most years, about half the teams stand a legitimate shot of getting to the >> Superbowl (in some years more, in some years fewer). This guarantees a wide-spread and mainstream >> audience -- indeed the only place where NFL teams seem to have trouble thriving is Los Angeles, >> which is hardly mainstream anymore. There is a tradition of multi-generation family ownerships, >> although that is changing and the business is more crass and gauche because of it. I think >> they've overplayed their marketing hand in recent years, and run the risk of infuriating people >> the way Disney does, although studies show that young people don't even notice invasive and >> annoying over-marketing the way folks in my age bracket do. >> >> If you can stand the hype, enjoy the Superbowl tomorrow. If the score is tied or close at >> half-time, I predict an exciting ending. But either team could blow it open and either team could >> not show up half-hearted, and then all that's left to watch are the commercials! Am I the only >> audio geek who is also a rabid football fan? >> >> -- Tom Fine >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steven Smolian" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:19 AM >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Some YouTube stuff that may be of interst >> >> >>> Speaking of dealing with large quantities of old materials, did you notice the National Football >>> League now has each play of the season recallable on video instantlyl? This is a cataloging >>> challenge of great complexity with similarities in scope to those related to music and >>> recordings. Has anyone an informed idea of how this was accomplished? Using team names and >>> uniform numbers, perhaps? Is this something we can learn from? >>> >>> Steve Smolian >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marcos Sueiro" <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:49 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Some YouTube stuff that may be of interst >>> >>> >>>> That seems to be the business model of many newspaper and periodical web sites: current items >>>> for free, but pay (or at least register) for the archive. If this spreads to media-posting web >>>> sites, as Tom suggests, it means that it will be the archive (back catalogue, legacy) materials >>>> that will be generating the revenue: exactly the opposite of what the current model is for the >>>> entertainment industry. I daresay that librarians, archivists, and even collectors, with their >>>> experience in dealing with large quantities of old materials, could then be very valuable >>>> people for such companies. Not to mention the libraries, archives, and private collections >>>> themselves. >>>> >>>> Marcos >>>> >>>> Tom Fine wrote: >>>>> Also note that GE/NBC has cracked down on YouTube. Pretty soon, it will be back to being what >>>>> it started out as -- a bunch of boring junk from kids with video cameras. The copyright owners >>>>> will want to distribute video for pay or for free on their own websites. And YouTube's >>>>> inventors will turn out to be the cleverist of the dot-bomb zillionaires for selling at just >>>>> the right time for maximum hype-dollars (although that title may forever belong to Mark Cuban, >>>>> who invented a now-dead audio site and sold it for megabux to Yahoo when they panic'd about >>>>> Real Networks stealing the whole streaming audio show; now Cuban is a loud and obnoxious >>>>> basketball team owner). >>>>> >>>>> By the way, I have been impressed and pleased by the growth of video podcasts available free >>>>> via iTunes. Most of the Sunday political talk shows are now available either as audio or >>>>> either video or audio podcasts. I believe that eventually network TV shows will go this way -- >>>>> have a podcast available with commercials for free during perhaps a 2-week period surrounding >>>>> the original broadcast and then have the episode available without commercials for a couple of >>>>> bucks forever afterward. When that happens, it'll sure put the last nail in the coffin of most >>>>> VHS decks and probably kill off TiVo too. >>>>> >>>>> -- Tom Fine >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcos Sueiro" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:12 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Some YouTube stuff that may be of interst >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Bert, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think it makes a difference. If the audio is under copyright, it is illegal to post >>>>>> it. I believe you are also required to state the copyright owners. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a related article from this week: >>>>>> >>>>>> Viacom wants its clips removed from YouTube >>>>>> >>>>>> Associated Press >>>>>> Published February 3, 2007 >>>>>> >>>>>> NEW YORK -- Media company Viacom Inc., which owns the cable networks MTV, VH1, Nickelodeon >>>>>> and the Paramount Pictures movie studio, asked YouTube on Friday to remove more than 100,000 >>>>>> unauthorized clips from its hugely popular video-sharing site. >>>>>> >>>>>> Viacom said in a statement that after several months of talks with YouTube and its corporate >>>>>> parent, the online search leader Google Inc., "it has become clear that YouTube is unwilling >>>>>> to come to a fair market agreement that would make Viacom content available to YouTube >>>>>> users." >>>>>> >>>>>> Viacom said that YouTube and Google had failed to deliver on several "filtering tools" to >>>>>> control unauthorized video from appearing on the immensely popular site. >>>>>> >>>>>> The company was now asking YouTube to take the clips down, but stopped short of filing a >>>>>> lawsuit. >>>>>> >>>>>> Under federal copyright law, online services such as YouTube are generally immune from >>>>>> liability as long as it responds to takedown requests such as these, which YouTube often >>>>>> does. Less clear legally is what happens when another user posts the same video, something >>>>>> commonly done on the free video-sharing site. >>>>>> >>>>>> YouTube said in a statement that it would comply with the request from Viacom and said it >>>>>> cooperates "with all copyright holders to identify and promptly remove infringing content as >>>>>> soon as we are officially notified." >>>>>> >>>>>> The company also said it was "unfortunate that Viacom will no longer be able to benefit from >>>>>> YouTube's passionate audience which has helped to promote many of Viacom's shows." >>>>>> >>>>>> In November, YouTube agreed to delete nearly 30,000 files after the Japan Society for Rights >>>>>> of Authors, Composers and Publishers complained of copyright infringement. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some media companies such as CBS Corp. and General Electric Co.'s NBC Universal have made >>>>>> deals to allow YouTube to use video clips from their programming, but others have yet to >>>>>> agree with the site over ways of being compensated for the use of their copyrighted material. >>>>>> >>>>>> Universal Music Group, a division of French telecommunications giant Vivendi SA, had >>>>>> threatened to sue YouTube for copyright infringement, saying it was a hub for pirated music >>>>>> videos, but later reached a licensing deal with them last year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Despite Viacom's problems with YouTube, the company's MTV Networks division reached a >>>>>> licensing deal last year with Google that allows the search company's video service to use >>>>>> clips from MTV and its sibling networks under a revenue-sharing agreement. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bertram Lyons wrote: >>>>>>> Does the fact that this is a home video alter the issues of copyright? If he were to do the >>>>>>> same thing (i.e. digitize his 78 collection) and publish it online as an audio database with >>>>>>> full sound files (instead of home video), would he be under any sort of copyright violation >>>>>>> with the particular labels and songwriters associated with said recordings? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just curious - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bertram >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>>>>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Some YouTube stuff that may be of interst >>>>>>>> From: Roger and Allison Kulp <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>> Date: Fri, February 02, 2007 10:06 pm >>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=78MAN&page=1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will admit the guy has a lousy player,and some of his records aren't the best shape. >>>>>>>> I have a better condition "Move It !" 78 myself,but it is interesting, >>>>>>>> Roger >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "If you're not on somebody's watchlist,you're not doing your job" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dave Von Kleist >>>>>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Don't get soaked. 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