We're using the STIL cases to enclose our gold preservation CD-Rs. As Richard notes, for this purpose we don't need a way to keep an insert with the disc. However, when we were pooling our collective departmental resources to purchase a skid of the cases, the UGA music collections librarian opted out, since he needed a good way to keep the tray insert in the case, and the STIL case clearly falls short here (although I think it's fair to say that given their focus on preservation they probably thought this was a minor consideration -- maybe they'll rethink it...) Regarding labeling, we write our ID number on the spine, and put a foil-backed label with more info on the front of the case. I'm finding this works really well. Best, Craig Craig Breaden Media Assets Archivist Richard B. Russell Library for Political Research and Studies Main Library The University of Georgia Athens, GA 30602-1641 706-542-5782 (phone) 706-542-4144 (fax) www.libs.uga.edu/russell/russell.html -----Original Message----- From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Richard L. Hess Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:47 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] The STiL Case At 09:28 AM 2007-02-08, Martin Fisher wrote: >Wonder if all designers/suppliers of alternative CD storage devices go >home and trash or chop up their own tray cards or other graphics?? > >The only practical solutions I've seen are made from pvc which is >thought to be detrimental to CDs. Hello, Martin, That is a good point, but I think the STiL case has many advantages for people making CD-Rs which don't often come with tray cards or inserts (at least the ones I make don't usually come with the paper). Besides, with gold CD-Rs offering an allegedly 5-8 X life expectancy over manufactured CDs, this case might be useful for that. I have been looking at the STiL cases and while they are intriguing, I have not had (m)any standard jewel cases trashed by shipping (I've received no complaints). Cheers, Richard Richard L. Hess email: [log in to unmask] Aurora, Ontario, Canada (905) 713 6733 1-877-TAPE-FIX Detailed contact information: http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes.