One thing to remember with Cedar is that it is essentially a 
real-time process--at least as far as I've studied it and how I've 
seen it used.

This contrasts with most plug-in processes which can run faster or 
much faster than real time when "rendering" an audio file with the application.

For the workflow discussed here, either the Cedar hardware boxes OR 
Cambridge would work in real time -- and you can tweak in real time 
as well if you don't like what you're hearing.

For generating CDs or other file-based delivery mechanisms, the use 
of a plug-in architecture where you can tell it to "render" the 
repaired file is, IMHO, superior to having to wait the entire running 
time of the file to provide a result.

However, as I have said, I don't think for discs -- especially "78" 
work -- anything meets the Cedar level of noise reduction AND ease of use.

I would look at the Algorithmix high-end disc package which is 10% of 
the cost of Cedar (for that one plug-in). I am happy with the 
Noise-free Pro Algorithmix plug-in BUT I have never had occasion to 
use the Pro de-click. Just their mid-level "Sound Laundry" de-click.

Also the Cedar Retouch is similar in concept to the Algorithmix 
Renovator. I've only used the slightly reduced functionality version 
of that in Samplitude 9 and it solves some interesting problems, but 
it doesn't do what Retouch did in Seth Winner's demo at ARSC. Of 
course, maybe Seth knows how to drive Retouch better than I know how 
to drive the new spectral cleaning filter in Samplitude.

It's a matter of pricepoint as well. Not seeing the volume to justify 
Cambridge and a drawer full of custom styli are two reasons I don't 
do discs <smile>.



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