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-----Original Message----- From Steven C. Barr: "...They, of course, would define their efforts, as well as current rap/hip-hop/urban-dance hits, as "music!" I tend to suspect that we wouldn't...!" My point is that when one can't possibly earn a living or raise the financial backing to build a career, it leaves us with a talent pool composed mostly of well-heeled posers seeking little more than to make a fashion statement. Hip-hop was often compelling music before the posers took over. Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control Over 40 years making people sound better than they ever imagined! 615.385.8051 http://www.hyperback.com