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on 5/22/07 6:06 PM US/Central, Richard L. Hess at [log in to unmask] wrote: > One thing to remember with Cedar is that it is essentially a > real-time process--at least as far as I've studied it and how I've > seen it used. External audio processors are either analog or digital i/o devices and are thus real time. This includes the dedicated, external CEDAR boxes. However, CEDAR Cambridge works in real time, or multiples of real time when using its internal editor. CEDAR Cambridge is not a plugin based system. It has digital i/o, as well as gigabit ethernet. It has an internal editor, so you have a choice. In addition, multiple instances of processes can be initiated in a chain, simultaneously. Real time or faster. > This contrasts with most plug-in processes which can run faster or > much faster than real time when "rendering" an audio file with the > application. There's been a related controversy in pro audio circles for years about software plugins. Essentially, the objection to plugins has been that they are written within the constraints of available CPU processing power, and are thus not truly optimized for the task at hand. While CEDAR Cambridge is expensive, you can easily test the available software processes because it comes with about two weeks of access to all software processes. Later, if you have a special project, you can rent additional processes by the day, week or month, and the rental is applied to the purchase price. There is no 'magic bullet' in terms of brand name for audio processing. Operator skill is probably the greatest single component. I'm sure you can get great results with Algorithmix, Gold Wave, MTU, etc., i.e., whatever you choose. Parker PS - Many years ago I used a DOS command line set of tools marketed by MTU, with algorithms written by Mark Dolson of MIT. These tools were very effective, except that they took many hours to complete a single process. Even MTU said that some processes took a long time to complete, and they even admitted that some would never complete! CEDAR's standalone boxes were a real breakthrough back then, because you could actually adjust parameters in real time and hear the results immediately. -- Parker Dinkins MasterDigital Corporation Audio Restoration + CD Mastering http://masterdigital.com