I think "uncoded languages" communicates the intent of the code element: it is what remains outside the specifically (whether individually or collectively) identified languages, but still within human language space. I could see a particular application making use of [mis] as a marker to use a separate field specifically used for locally defined code elements (the qaa-qtz code space). I also think that it should be identified as a Special code element, rather than as Collective.

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I would prefer "uncoded languages" - if only not to stimulate people to (be lazy and) avoid checking properly...
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---- Peter Constable <[log in to unmask]> schrieb:
> From: ISO 639 Joint Advisory Committee [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rebecca S. Guenther
> > I would agree with the intent...
> Good. Thanks for confirming that.
> > Also, in the sentence below...
> > it would be clearer to say:
> > "If a new language is added to ISO 639-2 which was previously
> > listed as a language under "mis"...
> A problem with that is that ISO 639 has never listed languages under mis.
> > I would prefer calling it something like "Other languages"
> > or "Other unrelated languages". Saying "Unsupported languages"
> > doesn't make sense to me-- it's not clear what isn't supported.
> > If they're really "unsupported" there wouldn't be an identifier
> > for them. It's really more "Unenumerated languages"-- or
> > miscellaneous languages that don't belong in any defined group.
> Joan indicated "unsupported" was better to her than "miscellaneous". I see what you say about "unsupported", though.
> Some possibilities:
> - Unsupported languages
> - Other languages
> - Other unrelated languages
> - Unenumerated languages
> - Uncoded languages
> - Other uncoded languages
> Or maybe others have other ideas.
> Perhaps it might be useful if each of us indicated a couple of choices in order of preference. My picks:
> 1) Other languages
> 2) Uncoded languages
> Peter