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From: Patent Tactics, George Brock-Nannestad

Roger wrote:

> I have actually seen an ebonite rubber disc,so I know what they look like................
> 
> 

----- well, I have handled some and smelled them, so I would also not be 
fooled. Excuse my ignorance, but if you only discovered that it was not 
ebonite when you got it home from e-bay - what means of redress do you have? 
So, in fact I am just warning those who might want to have a true relic from 
the first period and found it on e-bay. Possibly it is only e-bay fright - I 
would probably only buy relics after my own inspection.

Kind regards,

George


> 
> George Brock-Nannestad <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Patent Tactics, George
> Brock-Nannestad
> 
> Philip Holmes wrote:
> 
> > Well, real test pressing or not, a 10" Atlantic acetate is going to 
> > command attention from today's collectors.
> 
> ----- it is much easier to fake an "acetate" than a pressing, so I would be
> much more wary of an "acetate" than of a pressing. Getting proper shellac
> mix 
> or shellac substitute is quite difficult, but to cut a fresh laquer on old
> stock Audiodisc or the similar is not difficult. Add a musty envelope and a
> few surface scuffs, perhaps leaving the cut disc in the air to vent some of
> the camphor - and you are in business. The label might have to be faked in
> off-set printing, but do you know - sometimes you find piles of unused test
> record labels sitting around. The only thing that remains is to use the 
> correct glue for sticking-on that label on the "acetate" - but I'm not 
> telling what that is.
> 
> This is also why I am much more wary of early Berliners - no label to 
> authenticate the record. And who knows what ebonite (= hard rubber) feels 
> like, anyway. Faking by re-casting is not at all unimagineable. Sold at
> e-bay 
> - well everything goes ("going, going, gone!").
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> 
> George
>  
> > 
> > Bob Olhsson wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >From Aaron Levinson: "...I think you'd be very surprised by the
> number
> > of
> > > actual test pressings 
> > > that do turn up..."
> > >
> > > The practice of sending out a few hundred promo copies that looked
> like
> > test
> > > pressings was VERY common. We even occasionally sent out 10" acetates
> to
> > get
> > > a program director's attention as did Atlantic.
> > >
> > > Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN
> > > Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control
> > > Over 40 years making people sound better than they ever imagined!
> > > 615.385.8051 http://www.hyperback.com
> > >
> > >   
> 
> 
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