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I've had success in lifting a few milliseconds from somewhere else in the recording - usually from another chorus, or verse or bar in the piece - and inserting it where the zit was excised. This is only a sometimes solution, though, although it's invisible when it succeeds. Works for both analog and digital splicing, but best done digitally, because with analog you'd be working from a copy. Realistically it should be at 15 or 30 ips, too, to have enough tape to splice! Mal ******* Tom Fine wrote: > Hi Doug: > > <snip> When the needle jumps the groove like with a gouge or a big > vinyl zit, all bets are off because there is no underlying music to > mimick. I try to avoid records in that bad shape but sometimes you get > 'em. After years of doing this, I've come to the conclusion that the > most natural-sounding solution is just reduce the pop waveform to the > level of the accompanying music. <snip> > -- Tom Fine > ******* > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pomeroy" > <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] De-clicking > > >> Hi Tom, >> >> I assume the reference to "Jack" is a reference to Jack Towers. >> He will tell you he got the oxide scraping technique from discussions >> with the late John RT Davies. I have worked with some of John's tapes, >> and I can report his scraping was VERY carefully done. I have also >> worked >> with some of Jack's tapes, and I have to say Jack usually took off >> too much >> oxide, producing an obvious dropout; I had to fix lots of these, using >> crossfades, or by careful deletion of part of the audible silence. >> >> doug pomeroy >> >>> From: Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> >>> Reply-To: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion >>> List <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] De-clicking >>> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:52:44 -0400 >>> >>> Hi Parker: >>> >>> I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you were describing. Now I >>> understand. That would absolutely work, but what an art form! Wow, I >>> wonder what Jack experimented on to learn the art. >>> >>> -- Tom Fine >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Parker Dinkins" >>> <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:14 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] De-clicking >>> >>> >>>> on 7/26/07 8:06 PM US/Central, Tom Fine at [log in to unmask] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> But if you do Jack's method, you're left with the same problem as >>>>> Terry -- a >>>>> microsecond of blank space, which is just as noticeable and >>>>> annoying as the >>>>> click. >>>> >>>> By scraping off only the precise moment of the click, you're in effect >>>> creating a high speed fadeout and fade-in. It's audible, but less >>>> annoying >>>> than the click itself. >>>> >>>> There's an overview of analog and digital de-clicking at >>>> http://www.cedaraudio.com/intro/declick_intro.html - but without a >>>> description of manually scraping off the oxide. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Parker Dinkins >>>> MasterDigital Corporation >>>> Audio Restoration + CD Mastering >>>> http://masterdigital.com >>>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> http://liveearth.msn.com >> >