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Wing could have been mastered anywhere, including Mercury's own cutter room.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "phillip holmes" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] LP pressing question


>I know that Piros scribed "P13" and "P17".  I think the P17 sound a 
> little punchier to me.  Were there any other common PXX combinations you 
> can recall?  Also, I was playing a Mercury Wing, one that didn't suck, 
> and "MR" was in the deadwax.  Who is "MR"?
> Phillip
> 
> Tom Fine wrote:
>> I think all sorts of strange stuff took place with cutting guys in the 
>> 60's, 70's and at th end of the LP era.  Stan Ricker had some quite 
>> original stuff in his Mobile Fidelity cuts of the 70's. In earlier 
>> times, too much fanciful stuff was frowned on but every cutter had his 
>> "maker's mark" that he would inscribe. At Fine Sound in the 50's, most 
>> cuts would just have the catalog number stamped in the dead wax like 
>> early Mercury MG series. Same for Verve, Kapp and Grand Award cut 
>> there. This might have been a practice my father picked up at Reeves 
>> in the late 40's or Majestic before that. When Fine Recording opened 
>> up, George Piros was dealing with more lathes and more cutter heads 
>> --  certain combinations preferred by certain producers -- so he 
>> started a code of "PXX" with XX being a number representing a lathe 
>> and cutter head. He would hand-scribe his mark plus the catalog number 
>> and side a or b into the dead wax. John Johnson would scribe JJ. Once 
>> dedicated mastering houses sprung up, you'd see a stamp imprint of, 
>> for instance, "Mastered by MasterDisc". I'm not sure if guys at the 
>> pressing plant would further scribe the dead wax to indicate a 
>> replacement part or later replacement master. I would imagine a major 
>> label's mastering department, like Columbia, would some pretty complex 
>> codes to follow in the interest of uniformity.
>>
>> Bob, how many cutters were there at Motown and what was your system?
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Wylie" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] LP pressing question
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