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I have actually seen an ebonite rubber disc,so I know what they look like. EIL/esprit has sold some newish acetates in recent years.I bought a Gorillaz,that actually came from the famous Townhouse plant.They only get one of each acetate,and never relist them.These are real,just like the Bell Sound acetates I own from the 60s.The ones I don't know about are those oddball acetates of Beecham,Walter,Boyd Neel,Clemens Krauss that I have that have printing on there from someone  in Middlesex,named Troutbeck,and the original HMV/Columbia catalog/matrix numbers on the label.(Lp transfers of late 30s 78s.
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                                        Roger

George Brock-Nannestad <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Patent Tactics, George Brock-Nannestad

Philip Holmes wrote:

> Well, real test pressing or not, a 10" Atlantic acetate is going to 
> command attention from today's collectors.

----- it is much easier to fake an "acetate" than a pressing, so I would be 
much more wary of an "acetate" than of a pressing. Getting proper shellac mix 
or shellac substitute is quite difficult, but to cut a fresh laquer on old 
stock Audiodisc or the similar is not difficult. Add a musty envelope and a 
few surface scuffs, perhaps leaving the cut disc in the air to vent some of 
the camphor - and you are in business. The label might have to be faked in 
off-set printing, but do you know - sometimes you find piles of unused test 
record labels sitting around. The only thing that remains is to use the 
correct glue for sticking-on that label on the "acetate" - but I'm not 
telling what that is.

This is also why I am much more wary of early Berliners - no label to 
authenticate the record. And who knows what ebonite (= hard rubber) feels 
like, anyway. Faking by re-casting is not at all unimagineable. Sold at e-bay 
- well everything goes ("going, going, gone!").

Kind regards,


George
 
> 
> Bob Olhsson wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From Aaron Levinson: "...I think you'd be very surprised by the number
> of
> > actual test pressings 
> > that do turn up..."
> >
> > The practice of sending out a few hundred promo copies that looked like
> test
> > pressings was VERY common. We even occasionally sent out 10" acetates to
> get
> > a program director's attention as did Atlantic.
> >
> > Bob Olhsson Audio Mastery, Nashville TN
> > Mastering, Audio for Picture, Mix Evaluation and Quality Control
> > Over 40 years making people sound better than they ever imagined!
> > 615.385.8051 http://www.hyperback.com
> >
> >   


       
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