I have a bunch of Columbia test pressings,dating back to the 1940s/early 50s,all classical commercially issued titles.These have generic printed Columbia Records test pressing labels,with artist,and titles only written on the labels, occasionally matrix numbers,but never the timings.Most are one sided,with both sides as a two record set.They usually,but not always,have the same machine-stamped matrices as the commercially issued titles. The only test pressings issued as promos I have seen,are from the early to middle 1980s,and usually have some amount of printing besides the logo/plant name on the label.I have two Capitol 45s like this,and once sold a Columbia.I have three major label test pressings from the mid-late 80s.1)A Warner test pressing of the Lp "Heyday",by the Australian band The Church.This is a blank label record,pressed on better quality vinyl than the commercial issue,with no markings on it to identify it at all.2)A test pressing of Robyn Hitchcock's "Queen Elvis".This has a label from the pressing plant ("Elektro something.),with their logo and address but no other markings.Title and artist is on there in felt-tip pen. 3)A test pressing of the 12" single of "Face The Face",by Pete Townshend,that I thought was the real deal,but until this thread,I'm now not so sure. Roger phillip holmes <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Every Columbia White Label Promo I have has a pasted on paper sticker with track timings. I think the RCAs had the same. Steven C. Barr(x) wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Shoshani" > >> Tom Fine wrote: >> >>> When the QC listening >>> was done, it was done with a stop-watch so that times could be known for >>> problem, which were noted. >>> >> That's interesting - I read somewhere that records did not carry time >> information until after tape was introduced, which led me to conclude >> that the time was calculated by measuring the tape footage and dividing >> it by the speed, rather than having some poor schlub sit there all day >> with a stopwatch. >> >> > I suspect that the real reason for time information appearing on record > labels was the fact that records were being used on radio "disc jockey" > programs to an increasing extent...and the "deejay" needs to know in > advance how long a disc will play in order to allow properly-timed > "station breaks" and even program duration. IIRC, the "promo copies" > usually provided this info before the emergence of tape mastering... > > Steven C. Barr > (Who has done...and still does...deejay-based radio programs, and who > finds it much easier now that CD players provide data like "time > remaining...") > > --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.