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"Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, which is merely false information spread by mistake." I contend that according to this definition my statement was clearly misinformation. I had no idea that Lee Wiley recorded these "songbooks" in the 30's making it impossible for this to be "disinformation" which is deliberate and designed to mislead the opposition. I may love Ella to pieces but to think I would engage in a "disinformation campaign" to besmirch Lee Wiley stretches the boundaries of credulity. AA Francesco Martinelli wrote: > I know the meaning of the word, and I think it applies. > You said that "she was really the first person to do the "songbook" of > a particular composer or team". This is purposefully not true. Lee > Wiley did, not one but I believe four times, in the Thirties. The idea > was then reused by the Fitzgerald/Granz team. That you consider Wiley > a second-rate singer or that the definitive version was made by > Fitzgerald, is perfectly legitimate, as well as a contrary opinion, > but they are opinions and do not change facts, or dates. > I like when opposing facts are defined "purely technical" - a > disinformational technique. > FM > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Levinson" > <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:49 PM > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Songbooks was Re: [ARSCLIST] Sinatra & Ella: > The King and the Queen. > > >> First of all Francesco it is not "disinformation"(look up the word). >> Second, I personally do not think that 8 songs by a second rate >> singer is the same as the exhaustive and definitive undertaking of >> Ms. Fitzgerald. While on a purely technical level Lee Wiley may take >> precedence, no one looks back on their career and says with >> adulterated pride "Lee Wiley recorded my songs." >> >> AA >> >> Francesco Martinelli wrote: >>> Since this bit of disinformation gets said and repeated, I think it >>> is appropriate to mention that in the thirties "Lee Wiley was the >>> first jazz singer to record a full album (eight songs in the '78' >>> days) dedicated to the music of one composer; her "songbooks" >>> preceded Ella Fitzgerald's by more than 15 years." (Scott Yanow) >>> Francesco Martinelli >>> Siena Jazz >>> Centro Studi sul Jazz Arrigo Polillo >>> Fortezza Medicea, 10 >>> 53100 S I E N A >>> I T A L Y >>> http://centrostudi.sienajazz.it >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Cox" <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Sinatra & Ella: The King and the Queen. >>> >>> >>>> On 07/07/08, Aaron Levinson wrote: >>>>> That's so great to hear Bob. I'm not surprised of course just happy >>>>> that she was acknowledged as such. I think it is important to note as >>>>> well that she was really the first person to do the "songbook" of a >>>>> particular composer or team. >>>> >>>> We have Norman Granz to thank for that idea - and for a great many >>>> other outstanding recordings. >>>> >>>>> When you got the Ella treatment you knew >>>>> that at least you're finest work was being immortalized by the zenith >>>>> of popular singers. Of course, everyone knows her version of Tisket a >>>>> Tasket which brought her into the spotlight and the duets with Pops >>>>> which are a special delight all their own but if I may single out a >>>>> performance that I believe is among the 5 or 10 greatest in the >>>>> history of recorded sound I urge people to listen to her version of >>>>> "Miss Otis Regrets". It is certainly not her most famous song but if >>>>> you are not moved by this extraordinary bit of magic you are simply >>>>> not alive. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> -- >>>> Don Cox >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>> >>> >> >