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I can't remember the last time my timbers were shivered. But my faithful Monks 
Record Cleaning Machine cost more than my first two cars combined.

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Ken Fritz wrote:
> Gentleman,
> 
>   If you play LP's on a Silvertone changer, handed down from your dad, 
> listen on a system from Best Buy, You'll concur with this posting.
> 
>   With all due respect to those that posted to this topic, Vinyl cleaned 
> properly, played on a top of the line TT - arm - cartridge  set up will 
> sound good enough to shiver your timbers. In some cases, the cost of a 
> vinyl playback system to shiver  your timbers  may cost as much as a a 
> fine German sports car.
> 
>   Until you hear vinyl on a GREAT system, you won't realize how good the 
> medium of the past really is.
> 
>   Being  an  analog  guy myself;  CD's, digital and pro tools take 
> second place to the sound my  Ampex ATR , Koetsu, Dynavector and My 
> Sonic Labs cartridges deliver.   Being 66 years of age,  I may be wrong 
> but my ears are happy.
> 
>   Relax, and enjoy the music. Ken
> On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Charles Lawson wrote:
> 
>> Tom Fine writes:
>>> The LP has just too many limitations -- fuzzy midrange on peaks, ticks
>>> and pops, rumble
>>> and surface noise, poor channel separation at certain frequencies. It's
>>> always amazing to me when
>>> the things sound great -- I tip my hat to the mastering folks and
>>> pressing folks who make that
>>> happen. I'm old enough to remember the era before CD's. NO THANKS!
>>
>> Iím right there with you, Tom.  Iíd never go back.
>>
>> I hope it was clear from my postings that I am not *advocating* using 
>> disc
>> restorations as the preferred method of transferring older recordings to
>> the digital realm.  I am only noting that, in some cases when the master
>> tapes have deteriorated far enough, disc restorations can yield a more
>> listenable product than the bad masters.  OF COURSE digital re-issues
>> should be made from original source materials if those materials are
>> well-cared-for and in good shape.  However, I have heard (and own a few)
>> major label CD re-issues that suffer from all sorts of problems that the
>> same material originally issued on LP does not exhibitóand itís not just
>> poor quality-control at the digital remastering stage.
>>
>> The LP as a medium has all kinds of problems that bug me (as LPs always
>> have!), but some of my old LPs when thoroughly cleaned and played through
>> the LT with DSP EQ, etc. yield a more listenable product than some of the
>> CD re-issues that supposedly use original masters.  Properly manufactured
>> vinyl will generally hold up better than audio tape.  Itís just physics.
>>
>> I am booked up pretty solidly for the next little while, but if I can put
>> together a few A-Bs, Iíll be happy to share íem.
>>
>> Chas.
>>
>> -- 
>> Charles Lawson <[log in to unmask]>
>> Professional Audio for CD, DVD, Broadcast & Internet
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