Well Tom,as you know Estrus,Hillsdale,and a couple of other labels in the 90s, put out records lovingly aping the designs of the Fleetwood,Riverside racing Lps.Here's an example: http://www.timkerr.net/discography_lhfixers.html#80 Sensational Sounds Of The 1995 Estrus Invitationals EP Format: 7" Label: Estrus Release Date: 1996 Ref.: ESP 3233 Some of the Fleetwood Lps are out on CD: http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=1960174 http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=1958372 http://cgi.ebay.com/Bakersfield-1963-5th-Annual-Fuel-Gas-Racing-CD-NEW_W0QQitemZ140083953310QQihZ004QQcategoryZ2875QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262 And others have put out private issue CDs doing the same stuff,like http://www.gamutrecords.com/3.html http://www.racinguniversity.com/sounds.htm So,it's not a forgotten little genre. Roger - On Sun, 9/7/08, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > From: Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Riverside Race Car Records > To: [log in to unmask] > Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 2:35 PM > I remember that Ustinov album. We played our copy to death > when we were kids. > > I think the whole "big world in stereo in my living > room" genre was a bit of a money-maker in the > early days of stereo. Trains, planes, automobiles and > musical effects. I always imagine the guy > somewhere between the old John Doormat cartoons and the > swells of "Mad Men" using these records to > convince the wife to get comfortable with the second > speaker in the living room. But the cars racing > around the room and jets flying left to right just > don't do the trick. She frowns, pours another > drink and resigns herself to dusting one more large > surface. > > The somewhat analog of this scene today is the guy rolling > up on his McMansion with a 60" > flat-screen in the back of the SUV. > > There are plenty of good documentaries out there about auto > racing in the 50's and 60's. It was very > different from the videogame-esque NASCAR scene today. Both > road racing and drag racing and even > grand prix racing were more dangerous and interesting -- > for both drivers and spectators. It wasn't > quite a blood sport but there were plenty of injury-causing > mishaps to be witnessed. Many of the > early hi-fi and stereo enthusiasts were war veterans, so > the idea of some danger combined with large > machines and loud motors probably brought back some > memories and sold some records. I like these > records because they are something like historical > artifacts -- you don't hear a lot of these sounds > at a modern-day racing event. I've often wished Rhino > or some other "vintage"-oriented label would > put together a CD box set of the best of them, maybe > combined with some over-the-top TV and radio > ads from the day. > > -- Tom Fine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lennick" > <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:53 PM > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Riverside Race Car Records > > > > John Ross wrote: > >> At 9/7/2008 11:39 AM, Tom Fine wrote: > >>> Apparently, Bill Gauer, Keepnews' partner > at Riverside, was a racing car nut and was very into > >>> making these "environmental audio" > recordings. > >> > >> This raises a question I've always wondered > about: Who bought all those Riverside sports car > >> records? They still show up in secondhand record > bins, so SOMEBODY must have bought them new, but > >> did they sell enough to break even, let alone make > money, or were they just an excuse for Grauer > >> to talk his way into the pits at races with his > microphone? > >> > >> I suppose they didn't cost much to produce. No > studio time, no royalties or performers' fees. > >> Could they have been a profitable sideline like > the Elektra sound effects records? > > > > Further amazing that they had enough of a sense of > humor to issue Peter Ustinov's hour-long parody > > of the whole genre, a disc which stayed in print long > enough to be reprocessed in fake stereo > > (aaaaaak). > >> > >> There's a Riverside comedy record by a standup > comic whose name I have forgotten in which the > >> comic muses about a phone call: > >> "Riverside Records, can I help > you?" > >> "Yes, Bill Grauer please." > >> "I'm sorry, he's under a > Porsche, taking a level." > > > > I can recall about 3 comedy albums on Riverside (aside > from Ustinov)..Henry Morgan, "George > > Crater" (Ed Sherman), and Louis Nye (Heigh Ho > Madison Avenue). Was it one of these? > > > > dl > >> > >> John Ross > >> > >