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The problem is this: the term "jazz" is so all-inclusive that "jazz fans" 
are divided
into a veritable host of (usually OPPOSING) subsets...ranging from those who
insist that "jazz was invented in New Orleans...and that style remains the 
ONLY
'true' JAZZ...!!" all the way to those who claim to love and understand 
"avant-
garde" jazz (Which I can't do!!)...! In the meantime, there has always 
existed a
vigourous debate as to whether "Swing" is, or is NOT, "jazz"...?!

Steven C. Barr