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Dear JAC voting members,
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ISO 639 ballot 2006-4: Hyam; Ham; Jaba
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Please see original submission in the enclosed message. I am sorry that =
the issue has been on by desk too long before submitting a ballot.
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During the discussion none of the members presented arguments against =
the inclusion of this item in the alpha-3 table of ISO 639-2. It is =
already in ISO 639-3.
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Please vote by 14 April 2006.
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Submitted by:
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(A) Inclusion:
(1)
___ I am in favour of including "Hyam; Ham; Jaba" in ISO 639-2.
___ I am opposed to including "Hyam; Ham; Jaba" in ISO 639-2.
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[Inclusion in the alpha-2 code is not balloted.]
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(B) Identifier:
[Since the item is already in ISO 639-3, the identifier "jab" should be =
retained.]
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(C) Names:
(2)
___ I am in favour of the English names "Hyam; Ham; Jaba".
___ I am opposed to the English names "Hyam; Ham; Jaba".
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(3)
___ I am in favour of the French names "hyam; ham; jaba".
___ I am opposed to the French names "hyam; ham; jaba".=20
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(4)
___ I am in favour of the indigenous names "Hyam; Ham; Jaba".
___ I am opposed to the indigenous names "Hyam; Ham; Jaba".=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please =
see original=20
submission in the enclosed message. I am sorry that the issue has been =
on by=20
desk too long before submitting a ballot.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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the=20
discussion none of the members presented arguments against the inclusion =
of this=20
item in the alpha-3 table of ISO 639-2. It is already in ISO=20
639-3.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial =
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vote by 14 April 2006.</EM></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(A)=20
<STRONG>Inclusion</STRONG>:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>(1)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>___ I =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>___ I =
am opposed to=20
including "Hyam; Ham; Jaba" in ISO 639-2.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>[Inclusion in the=20
alpha-2 code is not balloted.]</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(B)=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>[Since =
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size=3D2>(2)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>___ I =
am in favour=20
of the English names "Hyam; Ham; Jaba".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>___ I =
am opposed to=20
the English names "Hyam; Ham; Jaba".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>(3)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>___ I =
am in favour=20
of the French names "hyam; ham; jaba".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D701392914-24032006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>___ I =
am opposed to=20
the French names "hyam; ham; jaba".&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>(4)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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am in favour=20
of the&nbsp;indigenous names "Hyam; Ham; Jaba".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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am opposed to=20
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Subject: New ISO 639 proposal: Hyam - Discussion (until 2005-01-14)
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Dear JAC members,

Please see the submission below.

The submitter refers to Ethnologue: =
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=3DJAB. The identifier =
"jab" is also the one that is used in draft 639-3.

In Linguasphere the item is encoded 98-IAB-da
The following represents the encoding in Linguasphere:
98 =3D BENUIC phylozone
98-I =3D HYAM+TAROK set
98-IA =3D HYAM+IZERE chain
98-IAB =3D HYAM+YESKWA net
98-IAB-d =3D Hyam+Shamang
98-IAB-da =3D hyam [hum, jaba, jabba, jeba]

This seems to be a good candidate for an alpha-3 identifier in ISO =
639-2.

As to name, please note that Ethnologue seems to place "Jaba" one level =
up in the hierarchy, while Linguasphere includes "Jaba" for this item =
only.

Any views on French and indigenous names?

DISCUSSION please (until 2005-01-14).

Best regards,
H=E5vard

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H=E5vard Hjulstad
Standard Norge / Standards Norway
  P.O.Box 242, NO-1326 Lysaker (Norway)
  +47 67838645 (direct)   fax: +47 67838601
http://www.standard.no/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rebecca S. Guenther [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20
Sent: 10. desember 2004 15:59
To: H=E5vard Hjulstad
Subject: New ISO 639-2 code (fwd)


This is probably the same as Ham in Ethnologue, which says it's a =
dialect cluster.

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Subject: New ISO 639-2 code

This data was submitted on: Thursday, December 9, 2004 at 11:16:27

lang_in_eng =3D HYAM, Ham, Jaba
lang_in_fre =3D=20
ref_where_found_1 =3D =
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=3DJAB
lang_in_vern =3D=20
ref_where_found_2 =3D=20
trans_lit =3D=20
evidence =3D Fantsuam Foundation (50+) http://www.fantsuam.org

addinfo =3D Fantsuam Foundation - http://www.fantsuam.org - is both the =
holder of the said documents and the institution recommending an =
individual ISO 639-2 code for Hyam.  Hyam is a Nigerian language spoken =
in Kaduna State and in Nasarawa State, Nigeria by about 117,890 people =
(Joshua Project - http://www.joshuaproject.com).  It is the dialect of =
Jaba language cluster with the greatest number of speakers.  The native =
speakers refer to the language as HYAM (alternate spelling HAM), while =
outsiders call it JABA.

The request for an individual code for Hyam is being made by Fantsuam =
Foundation at this time because an open source translation project =
called Zitt (http://zitt.sourceforge.net) has commenced.  The Fantsuam =
Foundation has an active ICT program training local youth who speak the =
five languages we intend to translate.  In order for our work to be =
incorporated into software such the GNOME desktop (the first piece of =
software we are localizing), we have been asked by the GNOME development =
team to acquire individual codes for each of the five languages (the =
others are Gong, Gworok, Jju and Tyap - separate submissions will be =
made for each).  In addition to localized open source software, our work =
will also produce the following:

-Hyam glossary
-Hyam grammar
-online Hyam IT dictionary
-online Hyam-English IT dictionary
-online Hyam-English general dictionary
-website (http://zitt.sourceforge.net) in Hyam
-Hyam translations of documentation associated with each localized =
software -basic/introductory ICT training/how-to documents in Hyam =
-information on the Hyam people and their land (as the information =
available online is quite scanty and not in Hyam)
=20
One of the reasons we are translating open source software into Hyam is =
to encourage publishing, both on and offline, in Hyam.  We intend to =
lead the way, as demonstrated by the list above. request_addition =3D =
ISO 639-2 only 2_code_suggestion =3D=20
3_code_suggestion =3D JAB
submit_name =3D Uchenna Agbim
submit_email =3D [log in to unmask]
submit_status =3D I am the project manager/coordinator for the Zitt Open =
Source Translation Project which will be doing the translation work.  =
The Zitt Open Source Translation Project draws nearly all of its members =
from the ranks of Fantsuam's ICT students.



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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dear JAC members,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Please see the submission below.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The submitter refers to Ethnologue: <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=3DJAB">http://ww=
w.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=3DJAB</A>. The identifier =
&quot;jab&quot; is also the one that is used in draft 639-3.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>In Linguasphere the item is encoded 98-IAB-da</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>The following represents the encoding in =
Linguasphere:</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>98 =3D BENUIC phylozone</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>98-I =3D HYAM+TAROK set</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>98-IA =3D HYAM+IZERE chain</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>98-IAB =3D HYAM+YESKWA net</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>98-IAB-d =3D Hyam+Shamang</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>98-IAB-da =3D hyam [hum, jaba, jabba, jeba]</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This seems to be a good candidate for an alpha-3 =
identifier in ISO 639-2.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>As to name, please note that Ethnologue seems to place =
&quot;Jaba&quot; one level up in the hierarchy, while Linguasphere =
includes &quot;Jaba&quot; for this item only.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Any views on French and indigenous names?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>DISCUSSION please (until 2005-01-14).</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Best regards,</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>H=E5vard</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>H=E5vard Hjulstad</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Standard Norge / Standards Norway</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; P.O.Box 242, NO-1326 Lysaker (Norway)</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; +47 67838645 (direct)&nbsp;&nbsp; fax: +47 =
67838601</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A =
HREF=3D"http://www.standard.no/">http://www.standard.no/</A></FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</A></FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Rebecca S. Guenther [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</A>] </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 10. desember 2004 15:59</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: H=E5vard Hjulstad</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: New ISO 639-2 code (fwd)</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This is probably the same as Ham in Ethnologue, which =
says it's a dialect cluster.</FONT>
</P>

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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:16:27 -0500</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: WWW generic account =
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: [log in to unmask]</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: New ISO 639-2 code</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This data was submitted on: Thursday, December 9, 2004 =
at 11:16:27</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>lang_in_eng =3D HYAM, Ham, Jaba</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>lang_in_fre =3D </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ref_where_found_1 =3D <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=3DJAB">http://ww=
w.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=3DJAB</A></FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>lang_in_vern =3D </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ref_where_found_2 =3D </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>trans_lit =3D </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>evidence =3D Fantsuam Foundation (50+) <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.fantsuam.org">http://www.fantsuam.org</A></FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>addinfo =3D Fantsuam Foundation - <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.fantsuam.org">http://www.fantsuam.org</A> - is both =
the holder of the said documents and the institution recommending an =
individual ISO 639-2 code for Hyam.&nbsp; Hyam is a Nigerian language =
spoken in Kaduna State and in Nasarawa State, Nigeria by about 117,890 =
people (Joshua Project - <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.joshuaproject.com">http://www.joshuaproject.com</A>).&=
nbsp; It is the dialect of Jaba language cluster with the greatest =
number of speakers.&nbsp; The native speakers refer to the language as =
HYAM (alternate spelling HAM), while outsiders call it JABA.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The request for an individual code for Hyam is being =
made by Fantsuam Foundation at this time because an open source =
translation project called Zitt (<A =
HREF=3D"http://zitt.sourceforge.net">http://zitt.sourceforge.net</A>) =
has commenced.&nbsp; The Fantsuam Foundation has an active ICT program =
training local youth who speak the five languages we intend to =
translate.&nbsp; In order for our work to be incorporated into software =
such the GNOME desktop (the first piece of software we are localizing), =
we have been asked by the GNOME development team to acquire individual =
codes for each of the five languages (the others are Gong, Gworok, Jju =
and Tyap - separate submissions will be made for each).&nbsp; In =
addition to localized open source software, our work will also produce =
the following:</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Hyam glossary</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Hyam grammar</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-online Hyam IT dictionary</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-online Hyam-English IT dictionary</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-online Hyam-English general dictionary</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-website (<A =
HREF=3D"http://zitt.sourceforge.net">http://zitt.sourceforge.net</A>) in =
Hyam</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Hyam translations of documentation associated with =
each localized software -basic/introductory ICT training/how-to =
documents in Hyam -information on the Hyam people and their land (as the =
information available online is quite scanty and not in Hyam)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>One of the reasons we are translating open source =
software into Hyam is to encourage publishing, both on and offline, in =
Hyam.&nbsp; We intend to lead the way, as demonstrated by the list =
above. request_addition =3D ISO 639-2 only 2_code_suggestion =3D =
</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>3_code_suggestion =3D JAB</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>submit_name =3D Uchenna Agbim</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>submit_email =3D [log in to unmask]</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>submit_status =3D I am the project =
manager/coordinator for the Zitt Open Source Translation Project which =
will be doing the translation work.&nbsp; The Zitt Open Source =
Translation Project draws nearly all of its members from the ranks of =
Fantsuam's ICT students.</FONT></P>
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