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I also agree.
I have added to the change notice that we have deprecated mo/mol but
have not yet updated the 639-2 tables. I will wait until we have a
decision on the names.

>>> Peter Constable <[log in to unmask]> 11/06/08 12:14 PM >>>
I as well.

Peter

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I agree also.

--Glenn

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Perhaps we could speed this along by voicing assent prior to next
Thursday? I would like to publish both the deprecation and the name
additions in one step for the ISO 639-3 website, so the sooner the names
are resolved, the better.

I agree with the proposal for the names as Håvard has stated them.

-Joan

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Dear ISO 639 JAC members (voting members and the rest of you),

My proposal is as follows: If no JAC members has voiced a different
opinion during the next week (by 13 November), the names associated with
"ro/ron/rum" will be:
Romanian; Moldavian; Moldovan (in English)
roumain, moldave (in French)

To be clear: "different opinion" may relate both to the subject matter
and the procedure.

Best regards,
Håvard

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Håvard Hjulstad
 Standard Norge / Standards Norway
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Fra: ISO 639 Joint Advisory Committee [mailto:[log in to unmask]] På vegne
av Gerhard Budin
Sendt: 5. november 2008 07:56
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Emne: Re: ISO 639 JAC decision re mo/mol

Håvard, I agree with you!



> I agree. The JAC hasn't made a formal decision (yet), but I guess we
should change the reference name of the item "ro" "ron/rum" to
"Romanian; Moldavian; Moldovan" and "roumain, moldave".
>
> The ISO 639 standards series has as its general title "Codes for the
representation of names of languages". I tend to disagree with the
notion that "names of languages" is the actual object of
standardization; it is the linguistic entity itself that is the object.
In the process of finalization of ISO 639-4 (now submitted to CS for
DIS.2 ballot) there may be a chance to re-address this issue. Once you
get that document for comment, you should look at the entire title to
assess whether it can be improved (which I know it can), and whether
some text should be inserted somewhere to capture this important issue.
>
> Best regards,
> Håvard
>
> --------------------
> Håvard Hjulstad
>   Standard Norge / Standards Norway
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> -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> Fra: ISO 639 Joint Advisory Committee [mailto:[log in to unmask]] På
vegne av Rebecca S Guenther
> Sendt: 3. november 2008 22:23
> Til: [log in to unmask] 
> Emne: Fwd: Re: ISO 639 JAC decision re mo/mol
>
> See forwarded message.  I was expecting some people not to be very
happy about this decision. I hope we are not overwhelmed by letters of
disagreement. Of course the answer is that we are standardizing the
code, not the language name, and that the code is an identifier, not an
abbreviation for the language. And that Moldovan is a variant of
Romanian and can use the script code for Cyrillic.
>
> If anyone has additional ideas for an explanation of our decision,
please let me know.
>
> Rebecca
>
>
>


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