I do not mind at all adding the correct name. But the hereafter “deprecated”
information should also be retained – of course with the proper attributes.





Von: ISO 639 Joint Advisory Committee [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von
Håvard Hjulstad
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2008 09:35
An: [log in to unmask]
Betreff: ISO 639-2 Language Code Change Request - Suggested name change -


Dear ISO 639 JAC members,


Below please find a proposal to change a name (English and French).


The JAC may choose to retain the current names (in English and/or French) in
addition to (and following) the proposed “new” names; or to delete the “old”


Discussion? (Until 9 December)


Best regards,




Håvard Hjulstad

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Emne: ISO 639-2 Language Code Change Request



ISO 639-2 Language Code Change Request.


English name of Language:   Slave (Athapascan)

French name of Language:   esclave (athapascan)

iso_639_2_b:   den

iso_639_2_t:   den

change_requested:   This language code is (in ISO 639-3) classified as a
macrolanguage, encompassing

scs       North Slavey

xsl       South Slavey


den is also the only code in ISO 639-2 and 639-3 whose description includes
(in parenthesis) the language family name. While the language family is
interesting information, this is not the way to give it (even
exceptionally). The (macro)language name is, nowadays, also Slavey, not
Slave. See One reason is the
confusability both with slave (as in slavery), which the ISO 639-2 French
name itself has fallen victim to, and with Slavic language (slave in
French). The language family name, as given, is also sometimes confused as
an alternative name.


My suggestion here is to change the description for den to be Slavey for
English, and slavey for French, including to omit the language family name
in the description.



Submitter's name:   Kent Karlsson

Submitter's email :   [log in to unmask]

Submitter's status :   Long-time member of IETF languages group as well as
IETF ltru-update group.