By all means, be my guest. That's the great thing about this list -- we can share ideas and learn from each other. Cordially, Marjorie Marjorie E. Bloss, Lecturer Graduate School of Library & Information Science Dominican University 7900 West Division Street River Forest, IL 60305 708-524-6468 (voice) 708-524-6657 (fax) [log in to unmask] ________________________________ From: Discussion List for issues related to cataloging & metadata education & training on behalf of Richard Stewart Sent: Sat 1/10/2009 3:28 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [eduCAT] incorporating RDA into a Cataloging and Classification class That sounds like an excellent approach! I will steal it, if you don't mind, if I ever teach another class or workshop involving FRBR. Richard A. Stewart Senior Cataloger Indian Trails Public Library District 355 South Schoenbeck Road Wheeling, Illinois 60090-4499 USA Tel: 847-279-2214 Fax: 847-4760 [log in to unmask] htpp://www.itpld.lib.il.us >>> "Bloss, Marjorie" <[log in to unmask]> 01/10/09 10:47 AM >>> I've used "What is FRBR?". It really does give an excellent overview. I find it extremely helpful to give them an example to consider. For me, it's Voltaire's Candide. We start with my asking a general question: "Have you read Candide"? In this case, I don't have any particular edition in mind, I don't care whether it's in English or French, or Italian. I don't care if they've read it on microfilm or microfiche or in a digital format. I'm simply asking: "Have you read Candide?" We then go on to the expression where I might ask "Have you read Candide in French?" And maybe I'm asking if they've read a specific translation. Then on to manifestation -- at which point, I jump to a related work, Leonard Bernstein's Candide. Conveniently, I have the phono disc of it, the CD of that phono disc, and a Broadway revival with a different cast. Then, there's the item -- what I happen to have in my library that someone wants to check out. After this, we play the game of "What is this in FRBR terms?" The Harry Potter books are really good for this, as is Romeo and Juliet. Marjorie Marjorie E. Bloss, Lecturer Graduate School of Library & Information Science Dominican University [log in to unmask] ________________________________ From: Discussion List for issues related to cataloging & metadata education & training on behalf of Frances, Melodie Sent: Fri 1/9/2009 3:36 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [eduCAT] incorporating RDA into a Cataloging and Classification class I have been wondering the exact same thing - my insitution wants me to incorporate frbr into my class which is easy enough to do, but an entirely new code (especially one that isn't even done yet) seems overwhelming - what we have to cover is already more than one can do in a semester - adding this seems insane - does anyone have experience with going from aacr1 to aacr2? I also feel that SOMETHING needs to be said - maybe a one night lecture comparing the two? Thanks for asking this question - I have been floundering with it. Melodie Frances -----Original Message----- From: Discussion List for issues related to cataloging & metadata education & training on behalf of Normore, Lorraine Sent: Fri 1/9/2009 12:38 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [eduCAT] incorporating RDA into a Cataloging and Classification class I've been thinking about what my incoming cataloging class needs to be told about RDA and how to incorporate RDA concepts into the class. Last year, I provided some small amounts of information about the history and background for RDA but didn't try to have them explicitly explore cataloging issues under RDA (vs. cataloging under AACR2R). I'm trying to figure out if I should go further, given the current state of RDA. I'd very much appreciate finding out what others are doing. Thanks in advance, Lorraine Normore Assistant Professor School of Information Sciences University of Tennessee