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The 541 (Immediate Source of Acquisition) field has a subfield, $e,
which is defined for "Accession number." This might be a better choice
for the museum inventory number, since it would be more visible to users
in the bibliographic record than in the holdings record. 
 
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>>> Nel ten Brug <[log in to unmask]> 4/21/2009 7:06:48 AM >>>

Dear all,

The Rijksmuseum Research Library, the largest museum library in the 
Netherlands, is currently trying to map its data to MARC 21. We have
only 
limited MARC experience, and we have a particular problem: our library

collection is also a part of the museum collection. This means we have
to 
give every item its own 
have 
this same obligation, and where in MARC do they place this number?
Since 
we are using KOHA, we have been using the KOHA item field tag 952$t
(copy 
number, in MARC this would be 852$t), but I understand this is used for

items with the same call number. Can someone please help?

Regards,
Nel ten Brug
Library Co-ordinator
Rijksmuseum Research Library


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<DIV style=3D"COLOR: #000000">Dear all,<BR><BR>The Rijksmuseum Research =
Library, the largest museum library in the <BR>Netherlands, is currently =
trying to map its data to MARC 21. We have only <BR>limited MARC experience=
, and we have a particular problem: our library <BR>collection is also a =
part of the museum collection. This means we have to <BR>give every item =
its own =E2=80=98inventory number=E2=80=99. Are there libraries who have =
<BR>this same obligation, and where in MARC do they place this number? =
Since <BR>we are using KOHA, we have been using the KOHA item field tag =
952$t (copy <BR>number, in MARC this would be 852$t), but I understand =
this is used for <BR>items with the same call number. Can someone please =
help?<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Nel ten Brug<BR>Library Co-ordinator<BR>Rijksmuseu=
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Nel ten Brug:

I looked at the Library of Congress' web page on the MARC format and =20
found the following:

http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd852.html

852
$p - Piece designation
Identification of a single piece when the holdings information does =20
not contain an 863-865 (Enumeration and Chronology) or 876-878 (Item =20
Information) field that contains a subfield $p (Piece designation).
Designation may be an identification number such as a bar code number =20=

or an accession number.
852	81$a [location identifier] $b0131$p1100064014
Piece designation number may be preceded by an uppercase B or U to =20
specify whether the piece is bound or unbound. When no piece =20
designation exists, a double slash (//) may be recorded in subfield $p =20=

to signify that the field relates to a piece.

-- Mitch Turitz
On Apr 21, 2009, at 4:06 AM, Nel ten Brug wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> The Rijksmuseum Research Library, the largest museum library in the
> Netherlands, is currently trying to map its data to MARC 21. We have =20=

> only
> limited MARC experience, and we have a particular problem: our library
> collection is also a part of the museum collection. This means we =20
> have to
> give every item its own =91inventory number=92. Are there libraries =
who =20
> have
> this same obligation, and where in MARC do they place this number? =20
> Since
> we are using KOHA, we have been using the KOHA item field tag 952$t =20=

> (copy
> number, in MARC this would be 852$t), but I understand this is used =20=

> for
> items with the same call number. Can someone please help?
>
> Regards,
> Nel ten Brug
> Library Co-ordinator
> Rijksmuseum Research Library

Mitch Turitz
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">Nel ten Brug:</span></div><div><br></div>I looked at the Library of =
Congress' web page on the MARC format and found the =
following:<div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd852.html">http://www.loc.g=
ov/marc/bibliographic/bd852.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><font =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"5"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-size: 18px;"><b>852</b></span></font></div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: Times; font-size: 16px; =
"><strong>$p - Piece designation</strong><div class=3D"description" =
style=3D"text-align: justify; margin-left: 2em; ">Identification of a =
single piece when the holdings information does not contain an 863-865 =
(Enumeration and Chronology) or 876-878 (Item Information) field that =
contains a subfield $p (Piece designation).</div><div =
class=3D"description2" style=3D"text-align: justify; margin-top: 1em; =
margin-bottom: 1em; "><div class=3D"description" style=3D"text-align: =
justify; margin-left: 2em; ">Designation may be an identification number =
such as a bar code number or an accession number.</div></div><div =
class=3D"example" style=3D"margin-left: 4em; "><table =
width=3D"100%"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" width=3D"5%" =
align=3D"left"></td><td valign=3D"top" width=3D"10%" =
align=3D"left"></td><td valign=3D"top" width=3D"10%" =
align=3D"left"></td><td valign=3D"top" width=3D"10%" =
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align=3D"left"></td><td valign=3D"top" width=3D"15%" =
align=3D"left"></td></tr><tr><td valign=3D"top" colspan=3D"1" =
align=3D"left"><strong>852</strong></td><td valign=3D"top" colspan=3D"9" =
align=3D"left"><strong>81</strong><strong>$a</strong>&nbsp;[location =
identifier]&nbsp;<strong>$b</strong>0131<strong>$p</strong>1100064014</td>=
</tr></tbody></table></div><div class=3D"description2" =
style=3D"text-align: justify; margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em; =
"><div class=3D"description" style=3D"text-align: justify; margin-left: =
2em; ">Piece designation number may be preceded by an uppercase B or U =
to specify whether the piece is bound or unbound. When no piece =
designation exists, a double slash (//) may be recorded in subfield $p =
to signify that the field relates to a piece.</div><div =
class=3D"description" style=3D"text-align: justify; margin-left: 2em; =
"><br></div><div class=3D"description" style=3D"text-align: justify; =
margin-left: 2em; ">-- Mitch Turitz</div></div></span><div><div>On Apr =
21, 2009, at 4:06 AM, Nel ten Brug wrote:</div><br =
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all,<br><br>The Rijksmuseum Research Library, the largest museum library =
in the <br>Netherlands, is currently trying to map its data to MARC 21. =
We have only <br>limited MARC experience, and we have a particular =
problem: our library <br>collection is also a part of the museum =
collection. This means we have to <br>give every item its own =91inventory=
 number=92. Are there libraries who have <br>this same obligation, and =
where in MARC do they place this number? Since <br>we are using KOHA, we =
have been using the KOHA item field tag 952$t (copy <br>number, in MARC =
this would be 852$t), but I understand this is used for <br>items with =
the same call number. Can someone please help?<br><br>Regards,<br>Nel =
ten Brug<br>Library Co-ordinator<br>Rijksmuseum Research =
Library<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div =
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In article <[log in to unmask]>, you wrote:

>give every item its own =91inventory number=92. Are there libraries who h=
>ave=20
>this same obligation, and where in MARC do they place this number? Since=20=

Accession numbers used to be very common; in most libraries they have
given way to barcode numbers.

Some Canadian libraries, and SLC, use 090$e, based on former
Utlas/Catss practice.  

When exporting for a library or museum which shelves by accession
number, we export as 852$j, otherwise as 852$p (which is also used for
barcode numbers).

Field 024 is for other standard numbers, and LC uses it for Asian
accession numbers.  An individual institution's accession number is
not a "standard number", but if your ILS can not handle 852, you could
use 024 7 $a<number>$2<your code>.  Field 024 is repeating, so that
would not prevent your using it for other numbers.


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TECHNICAL NOTICE (April 22, 2009)
Additions to the MARC Code Lists for Relators, Sources, Description
Conventions

Network Development and MARC Standards Office
Library of Congress

The codes listed below have been recently approved for use in MARC 21
records. The codes will be added to MARC Code Lists for Relators, Sources,
Description Conventions.

The codes should not be used in exchange records until after June 16,
2009. This 60-day waiting period is required to provide MARC 21
implementers time to include newly-defined codes in any validation tables
they may apply to the MARC fields where the codes are used.


Classification Code Sources

The following code is for use in subfield $2 in field 084 in Bibliographic
and Community Information records (Other Classification Number), in
subfield $2 in field 084 in Classification records (Classification Scheme
and Edition) and in subfield $2 in field 065 in Authority records (Other
Classification Number).

* Addition:
rilm - RILM classification system [use only after June 16,
2009]


Term, Name, Title Sources

The following codes are for use in subfield $2 in appropriate 6XX fields
(Subject Added Entries/Index Terms) in Bibliographic and Community
Information records; subfield $2 in fields 700-754 (Index Terms) in
Classification records; subfield $2 in fields 700-788 (Heading Linking
Entries) in Authority records; and subfield $f in field 040 (Cataloging
Source) in Authority records.

* Additions:
nsbncf - Nuovo Soggettario (Firenze: Biblioteca Nazionale Centrale di
Firenze) [use only after June 16, 2009]

nzggn - New Zealand gazetteer of official geographic names (New Zealand
Geographic Board Nga- Pou Taunaha o Aotearoa (NZGB)) [use only after June
16, 2009]

scbi - Soggettario per i cataloghi delle biblioteche italiane (Firenze:
Biblioteca Nazionale Centrale di Firenze) [use only after June 16, 2009]

tucua - Thesaurus for use in college and university archives (Chicago, IL:
Society of American Archivists) [use only after June 16, 2009]


The following code is for use in subfield $2 in fields 700-754 (Index
Terms) in Classification and subfield $f in field 040 (Cataloging
Source) in Authority records.

* Addition:
ddcri - Dewey Decimal Classification Relative Index (Albany,
N.Y. : Forest Press) [use only after June 16, 2009]


The Library of Congress, Network Development and MARC Standards Office
provides information about existing and newly assigned MARC codes on its
Web site (www.loc.gov/marc/) as well as notices such as these to
subscribers to its MARC listserv ([log in to unmask]).
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Dear all=2C

The BRAC University Library=2C is trying to introduce MARC21 in their libra=
ry. As the Integrated Library
Software Project Staff=2C we are facing some confusions regarding the MARC =
tags-
001 and 010
440 and 490.

My queries are :

1.What are the differences=20

between 001 or 010? Why are these used?

2.For series statement-which tag we'll use=2C either 440 or 490? Why? What =
are the differences=20
between these two tags?

Can someone please help?

Regards=2C
Zinat Ara
ILS Project Staff
Ayesha-Abed Library=2C
BRAC University
Dhaka=2C Bangladesh.

> Date: Tue=2C 21 Apr 2009 07:06:48 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [MARC] Inventory number
> To: [log in to unmask]
>=20
> Dear all=2C
>=20
> The Rijksmuseum Research Library=2C the largest museum library in the=20
> Netherlands=2C is currently trying to map its data to MARC 21. We have on=
ly=20
> limited MARC experience=2C and we have a particular problem: our library=
=20
> collection is also a part of the museum collection. This means we have to=
=20
> give every item its own =91inventory number=92. Are there libraries who h=
ave=20
> this same obligation=2C and where in MARC do they place this number? Sinc=
e=20
> we are using KOHA=2C we have been using the KOHA item field tag 952$t (co=
py=20
> number=2C in MARC this would be 852$t)=2C but I understand this is used f=
or=20
> items with the same call number. Can someone please help?
>=20
> Regards=2C
> Nel ten Brug
> Library Co-ordinator
> Rijksmuseum Research Library

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nat Ara<br>ILS Project Staff<br>Ayesha-Abed Library=2C<br>BRAC University<b=
r>Dhaka=2C Bangladesh.<br><br>&gt=3B Date: Tue=2C 21 Apr 2009 07:06:48 -040=
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its data to MARC 21. We have only <br>&gt=3B limited MARC experience=2C and=
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part of the museum collection. This means we have to <br>&gt=3B give every =
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=3B this same obligation=2C and where in MARC do they place this number? Si=
nce <br>&gt=3B we are using KOHA=2C we have been using the KOHA item field =
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On Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:15 PM,  Zinat Ara wrote:
>1.What are the differences between 001 or 010? Why are these used?

The 001 [1] is used to store the record control number. It is typically ass=
igned by your automated system (ILS/cataloging software). The 003 is used t=
o tell the origin of the 001 (to whom does the 001 belong).

Examples (from the MARC documentation):

001 #880524405##
003 CaOONL
016 ##$a#880524405##
[LAC generally supplies its control number in both field 001 and 016]

001 ###86104385#
003 DLC
010 ##$a###86104385#
[LC generally supplies its control number in both field 001 and 010]

001 ocm14919759
003 OCoLC

001 #####9007496
003 DNLM

##################

The 010 [2] is to be used for the LCCN, the "Unique number assigned to a MA=
RC record by the Library of Congress." It should only be used to hold LCCNs=
, not other control numbers. Whether an LCCN appearing on a book or other i=
tem belongs in $a or $z depends on how LC has used the LCCN and whether the=
 item being cataloged matches the item described by LC's record.

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[1] <http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd001.html>
[2] <http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd010.html>

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>2.For series statement-which tag we'll use, either 440 or 490? Why? What a=
re the differences between these two tags?

Under current MARC 21 definitions, 440 is now obsolete, so it should no lon=
ger be used in new records. The 490 is used for the series statement, trans=
cribed from the series' chief source of information on the item being catal=
oged. The 440 was also for the transcription of the series statement and wa=
s used if the statement on the item being cataloged matched the established=
/authorized form of series (in the authority file). If the authorized form =
differed from the transcribed form, then one used a 490/8xx combination. No=
w, one uses a 490/8xx combination in all cases (if one desires to trace the=
 authorized form).

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I hope this helps,

Bryan Baldus
Cataloger
Quality Books Inc.
The Best of America's Independent Presses
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Quoting zinat ara <[log in to unmask]>:

> The BRAC University Library, is trying to introduce MARC21 in their  
> library. As the Integrated Library
> Software Project Staff, we are facing some confusions regarding the  
> MARC tags-
> 001 and 010
> 440 and 490.
>
> My queries are :
>
> 1.What are the differences
>
> between 001 or 010? Why are these used?

010 is for the record number or LCCN assigned by the Library of  
Congress to its record.

001 is for your own internal system record.  Some systems (including  
ours, which is Horizon) actually hold that number outside the MARC  
record and you don't see it in 001; but that's where it should go if  
it's in the MARC record.

As a note, you'll find if you look at the MARC display in the Library  
of Congress catalog [log in to unmask] that LC itself has a different  
number in 001 from its LCCN in 010; e.g. this 1981 1 record (excerpts)

000 	01103cam a2200265 a 450
001 	425029
010 	__ |a 81002078
040 	__ |a DLC |c DLC |d DLC
100 	1_ |a Wesley, Samuel, |d 1766-1837.
245 	14 |a The Bach letters of Samuel Wesley / |c edited by his  
daughter Eliza Wesley ; new introd. by Percy Young.

If you are importing new versions of records from LC, then you may  
want to have 010 as a match point.  If you export your own records for  
processing, to overlay correctly when loading the revised records  
you'll want to match by your own system number, wherever it's held --  
001 is the logical choice, but it may not be possible with particular  
systems.

BTW that 000 tag is the record leader , which is not properly "000"  
but some systems display it that way, as here.
>
> 2.For series statement-which tag we'll use, either 440 or 490? Why?  
> What are the differences
> between these two tags?

I think Bryan Baldus has answered this perfectly.

Hal Cain
Dalton McCaughey Library
Parkville, Victoria, Australia
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I'll take my flyer at simple answers.

>001 and 010

001 is the control number in the system from which the record came.  
003 names that system.

010 is the control number at the Library of Congress, often printed in
books, and like the 020 ISBN used as an an access point.  In the LC
catalogue, it is used as their 001.

If you change the 001, and it is not the same as the 010, the old 001
goes in 035 with whose number it was from 003 in curves.

An item not catalogued by LC has no 010.  Some libraries use the LC
LCCN (if one) as their own 001; some use OCLC's numbers; most use
their own inhouse numbering.  Think of it as being like an accession
number used to file your record .

>For series statement-which tag we'll use=2C either 440 or 490? Why?

440 is obsolete and should not be used.

Formerly, 440 was the series on the item when it was the same as the
traced form of the series.  Now the form on the item is in 490 1, and
the traced form is in 830 (unless in counterproductive 800$t, 810$t,
or 811$t ), even if the two are identical.  490 1st indicator 1 now
means traced in 8XX, not traced differently.


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In the LC Online Catalog the 001 and the 010 are separate and distinct =
numbers.
The LC Control Number (010) is not used as the 001.

Ann Della Porta
ILS Program Office
Library of Congress
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>>> "J. McRee Elrod" <[log in to unmask]> 4/29/2009 12:53:04 AM >>>
I'll take my flyer at simple answers.

>001 and 010

001 is the control number in the system from which the record came. =20
003 names that system.

010 is the control number at the Library of Congress, often printed in
books, and like the 020 ISBN used as an an access point.  In the LC
catalogue, it is used as their 001.

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In article <[log in to unmask]>, you wrote:

>In the LC Online Catalog the 001 and the 010 are separate and distinct numbers.
>The LC Control Number (010) is not used as the 001.


My times have changed.

LC Control No.:    60035498
LCCN Permalink:   http://lccn.loc.gov/60035498
000   00849nam a2200277 450
001   277719
005   19840507000000.0
008   840503m19581983gau 001 0 eng
035   __ |9 (DLC) 60035498

While the LC control number remains the same as 010, what I remember
as being the 001 is now in 035.  (This particular work is by my mother
BTW.)

Sorry for not being up-to-date.


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Hello MARC list readers,

What is the appropriate code for a publication of an agency of the European Union?  In OCLC fixed field GPub, which if I understand correctly from http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/fixedfield/008006summary.shtm is MARC21 field 008 byte 28. 

Thanks - Ian


Ian Fairclough
George Mason University
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Ian,

   My instinct would be to use "i" for International intergovernmental.

-- Mitch

On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Ian Fairclough wrote:

> Hello MARC list readers,
>
> What is the appropriate code for a publication of an agency of the  
> European Union?  In OCLC fixed field GPub, which if I understand  
> correctly from http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/fixedfield/008006summary.shtm 
>  is MARC21 field 008 byte 28.
>
> Thanks - Ian
>
>
> Ian Fairclough
> George Mason University
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>
>
>

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