In the old days of Yugoslavia, the Roman alphabet and Cyrillic alphabet national academy dictionaries were identical. They came to a different number of pages because the Cyrillic letters are generally fatter (you may also have noticed this in opera librettos) generally referred to as Croatian, scr for the language in Roman characters (and with historical Catholic affiliation); the Cyrillic version, generally called Serbian (historically Orthodox affiliation), was scc.  I am only describing the MARC abbreviations.

As to the code rum for Romanian, well that is just stylistic. It was determined that now US library cataloging uses Romanian but did not change the language code from the previous standard Rumania.

Jill Rosenshield

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University of Wisconsin--Madison
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Amanda T. Ross" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:45 pm
Subject: Fwd: langcode (ISO 639.2 / MARC 041) factoid
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> To answer Michele's casual query:
> I'm no expert, but I thought I'd share a little for those who may be
> curious: The "hrv" is likely derived from the Croatian language
> itself, or *hrvatski
> jezik.*  Also, Moldavian isn't the proper name for the language spoken 
> in
> the Republic of Moldovan (formerly, Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic).
> Now, the language is called Moldovan (*limba moldovenească)*;
> linguistically, it is essentially Romanian (formerly Rumanian), but is
> termed nationalistically for political reasons -- thus the "mol" and "rum."
> The "srp" and "scc" codes have to do with the Serbian Latin (*Srpski jezik*)
> or Serbian Cyrillic (Српски језик) scripts in which Serbian has been
> written.
> Sorry for boring anyone with my semi-educated answer, but I do have an
> affinity for minor Eastern European matters.  Feel free to correct 
> where I
> have erred.
> Happy Wednesday!
> ~Amanda Ross
> Project Archivist
> Forest History Society
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Michele R Combs <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Last month we upgraded our library search interface to a new tool which
> > reads various things from MARC records to enable easy faceted 
> searches, for
> > example publication date, language, etc.  Some weird stuff showed up 
> in the
> > language facet, and in investigating it, we uncovered an interesting 
> factoid
> > which I thought I'd share.  EAD says that @LANGCODE in the LANGMATERIAL
> > element should use the ISO 639.2 codes; however, our new search tool
> > recognizes only MARC codes.  So I mapped the two to see how 
> different they
> > were, and it turns out the two code lists are identical apart from three
> > instances.  Interestingly, all three are Eastern European languages 
> --
> > Croatian (ISO code hrv and MARC code scr), Moldavian (ISO code rum 
> and MARC
> > code mol), and Serbian (ISO code srp and MARC code scc).
> >
> > Anyone have any idea where/why they came up with "hrv" for Croatian??
> >
> > Michele
> >
> > (be green - don't print this email!)
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> > Special Collections Research Center
> > Syracuse University Libraries
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> > Syracuse, NY  13244
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