This is not true. 78RPM kiddie records were made well into the 60's. I had a bunch of them when I 
was a kid, all pressed on vinyl. Kiddie phonos of both my youth (circa late 60's and early 70's) and 
my younger brother's youth (circa 1970's) still had 78RPM speed. I think by the late 70's, that was 
no more. They were still cutting 78RPM wide-groove kiddie records at Fine Recording at least into 
the early 60's, probably later than that. A guy named Steve Robb used to do this on a Presto lathe. 
He also cut zillions of mono 45's for radio play.

As far as adult music 78's, I would agree late 50's would be their end. I have a bunch from the 
early 50's, and at least Mercury, Norgran/Verve and Columbia were pressing on vinyl for radio-play 
copies. Some of the vinyl 78's sound _way_ better than your average 45 single.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Kulp" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Still more LP jukebox trivia

I saw somewhere that most US labels stopped pressing 78s in August (?) of 1958.I have four US 
pressed 78s from 1960.These are all R&B hits on Ace,Gone,and Atlantic.I read somewhere else,Goldmine 
perhaps,that some independent labels were still pressing 78s for jukebox operators too stubborn to 
switch to them newfangled 45s.That they were doing this into 1961,and only pressed up a few dozen of 
these titles on 78.


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From: Lou Houck <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Still more LP jukebox trivia
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Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 8:40 AM

Just can't stop talking about those juke boxes!
When singles were released in both 78 and 45 rpm,
Wurlitzer jukes selected a record by a mechanism
that swung a record tray out over the turntable,
which rose up on a long shaft, through the tray
and took the record up to the tone arm in the
upper regions of the cabinet. This mech was
even more convoluted than that last sentence!
There were 10" adaptor discs that had a 7"
cut out to hold records for machines configured
for 45 rpm play. What a joy to watch, but hell
to keep aligned. I've got one out in the barn,
and am keen to restore it!

Lou Houck
Rollin' Recording
Boerne, TX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Morton Jr, David L
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Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:27 PM
Subject: [ARSCLIST] Still more LP jukebox trivia

Wurlitzer (and others?) in the 60s (don't know the exact year range )
also offered jukeboxes that played both regular 45s and 7-inch, 33 1/3
"small hole" discs that they advertised on the machine itself as "LP."
The speed selection occurs as the record is loaded onto the platter. The
mechanism that locks it into position in the center of the platter also
detects the size of the hole, and when it senses (senses is probably not
the right word; it implies more sophistication than this mechanism
really has) the small hole it shifts to a second drive pulley/belt.

Dave Morton


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