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Folks... I have started a wire recorder users group on yahoo. I have several things in mind. We would like to reduce the cost of buying service, parts, owners manuals, etc, buy pdf'ing files and placing them on line for any one to down load. We are also interested in rebuilding wire recorders, and learning aspects of moving wire recording audio, in high quality, to modern media. We ask for no money. We are a small group who are interested in electronics and the media. You are welcome to list things you have for sale, but if all you are doing is selling stuff and not contributing, I will probably remove you. To reduce SPAM, you need to subscribe to this users group. You will need a free yahoo user ID and password to do this. If you do not want to give you real name, you can use any name when you sign up for a free yahoo user ID and password. You can sign up with yahoo here: http://m.www.yahoo.com/ Looking in the upper right hand top corner, look for the text that says "Sign Up" and follow the prompts. After you have logged into yahoo, you can go to our web page here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wire_Recorders/ And then subscribe. Polite conversation only please. jack honeycutt Portland oregon