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The micro cassette and mini cassette were not music media so I wouldn't 
count them in. If you do then don't forget the steno cassette as well 
and Sony's NT. As for the Elcaset, there were no commercial tapes 
released as far as i know. The only pre-recorded tape was the demo tape 
that Sony made, so again I think it should not be on the time line. 
However, RCA's sound tape and Playtape should be considered maybe. m2cw.
Shai

Corey Bailey wrote:
> Would the Micro-cassette be worth mentioning perhaps as a 
> sub-species?  The format is still in production.
>
> What about the short lived Elcaset?
>
> http://home.claranet.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/elcaset/index.html
>
>
> Holiday cheers!
>
> Corey
> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
>
>
> At 02:24 PM 12/30/2009, you wrote:
>> And when we look beyond U.S. borders, the cassette remains crucial in 
>> a lot of countries, in a variety of contexts.
>>
>> Best,
>> Kyle
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List on behalf of 
>> Timothy Wisniewski
>> Sent: Wed 12/30/2009 4:24 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Media Timeline - Historical Assistance Please
>>
>> I agree with Jack.  The cassette is still alive as a niche format, not
>> just for radio programs, but also it continues to be a popular format
>> with small-run independent labels, particularly those of the
>> experimental, "noise", and "lo-fi" varieties.  For reasons both
>> aesthetic and practical, some find the format preferable to CDR for
>> small-run releases.  I suspect these small-run labels are among the
>> main constituents keeping the few bulk cassette suppliers left in
>> business.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM, jack palmer <[log in to unmask]> 
>> wrote:
>> > I wonder about the cassette tape use.  Many radio shows are still 
>> copied and sold in that format although MP3s are taking over a lot of 
>> it now.  I would say it was still a niche use.  At least for another 
>> year or so.
>> >        Jack
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Richard L. Hess <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 4:36:33 PM
>> > Subject: [ARSCLIST] Media Timeline - Historical Assistance Please
>> >
>> > Hello, All!
>> >
>> > Happy New Year!
>> >
>> > I was helping my older son (the budding musician) with a school 
>> project and I tried to find a good timeline of audio recording media 
>> for CONSUMER DELIVERY and I realized that it is more difficult to 
>> create than it initially appears.
>> >
>> > What I really would like to see are date ranges for
>> > Development (which can involve limited commercialization)
>> > Major Factor
>> > Dominant Format
>> > Decline of Format
>> > Niche application of Format
>> > End of Format
>> >
>> > Not all formats would have all dates.
>> >
>> > I see this ultimately as a coloured bar chart with hotter colours 
>> as it is used more.
>> >
>> > I would like to address (at least) the following formats. I have 
>> Developed and Ended dates for all of them (any corrections would be 
>> appreciated). I use 2025 to mean "ongoing" as it makes the math 
>> easier and these will run off the right side of the chart.
>> >
>> > Here is what I'm hoping for (and these are guesstimates). Note that 
>> all dates are not required for each format. See the LP for a 
>> completely filled sequence.
>> >
>> > Should I start with sheet music? ? ?
>> >
>> > Cylinder Developed 1877 Ended 1931
>> > Acoustical 78s Developed 1897 Ended 1931
>> > Electrical 78s Developed 1924 Ended 1962
>> > **Long Play 33 Developed 1948 Major 1952 Dominant 1955 Decline 1980 
>> Niche 1990 Ended 2025
>> > Single 45 Developed 1949 Ended 1990
>> > 2-track reel Developed 1953 Ended 1960
>> > 4-track cart Developed 1956 Ended 1965
>> > 4-track reel Developed 1958 Major 1963 Decline 1970 Ended 1980
>> > cassette Developed 1963 Major 1970 Dominant 1978 Decline 1993 Niche 
>> 2002 Ended 2008
>> > 8-track cart Developed 1965 Major 1968 Decline 1978 Ended 1988
>> > CD Developed 1982 Major 1986 Dominant 1990 Decline 2006 Ended 2025
>> > DCC Developed 1992 Ended 1996
>> > MD Developed 1992 Major 1995 Decline 2000 Ended 2009
>> > Digital Downloads Developed 1994 Major 1999 Dominant 2006 Ended 2025
>> >
>> > Another way of showing this (and more difficult in Excel) would be 
>> to have the width of the line indicate the relative dominance of a 
>> format on a given date. I don't think we have enough data to do that 
>> for all of these.
>> >
>> > Whatever dates any of you would like to modify or add, I would 
>> appreciate it.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Richard
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Richard L. Hess                  email: [log in to unmask]
>> > Aurora, Ontario, Canada      (905) 713 6733    1-877-TAPE-FIX
>> > Detailed contact information: 
>> http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm
>> > Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Timothy Wisniewski, M.L.I.S.
>>
>> Visual Materials Archivist
>> Alan Mason Chesney Medical Archives
>> Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions
>> 5801 Smith Avenue, Suite 235
>> Baltimore, MD 21209
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