The micro cassette and mini cassette were not music media so I wouldn't count them in. If you do then don't forget the steno cassette as well and Sony's NT. As for the Elcaset, there were no commercial tapes released as far as i know. The only pre-recorded tape was the demo tape that Sony made, so again I think it should not be on the time line. However, RCA's sound tape and Playtape should be considered maybe. m2cw. Shai Corey Bailey wrote: > Would the Micro-cassette be worth mentioning perhaps as a > sub-species? The format is still in production. > > What about the short lived Elcaset? > > http://home.claranet.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/elcaset/index.html > > > Holiday cheers! > > Corey > Corey Bailey Audio Engineering > > > At 02:24 PM 12/30/2009, you wrote: >> And when we look beyond U.S. borders, the cassette remains crucial in >> a lot of countries, in a variety of contexts. >> >> Best, >> Kyle >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List on behalf of >> Timothy Wisniewski >> Sent: Wed 12/30/2009 4:24 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Media Timeline - Historical Assistance Please >> >> I agree with Jack. The cassette is still alive as a niche format, not >> just for radio programs, but also it continues to be a popular format >> with small-run independent labels, particularly those of the >> experimental, "noise", and "lo-fi" varieties. For reasons both >> aesthetic and practical, some find the format preferable to CDR for >> small-run releases. I suspect these small-run labels are among the >> main constituents keeping the few bulk cassette suppliers left in >> business. >> >> Tim >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM, jack palmer <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> > I wonder about the cassette tape use. Many radio shows are still >> copied and sold in that format although MP3s are taking over a lot of >> it now. I would say it was still a niche use. At least for another >> year or so. >> > Jack >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Richard L. Hess <[log in to unmask]> >> > To: [log in to unmask] >> > Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 4:36:33 PM >> > Subject: [ARSCLIST] Media Timeline - Historical Assistance Please >> > >> > Hello, All! >> > >> > Happy New Year! >> > >> > I was helping my older son (the budding musician) with a school >> project and I tried to find a good timeline of audio recording media >> for CONSUMER DELIVERY and I realized that it is more difficult to >> create than it initially appears. >> > >> > What I really would like to see are date ranges for >> > Development (which can involve limited commercialization) >> > Major Factor >> > Dominant Format >> > Decline of Format >> > Niche application of Format >> > End of Format >> > >> > Not all formats would have all dates. >> > >> > I see this ultimately as a coloured bar chart with hotter colours >> as it is used more. >> > >> > I would like to address (at least) the following formats. I have >> Developed and Ended dates for all of them (any corrections would be >> appreciated). I use 2025 to mean "ongoing" as it makes the math >> easier and these will run off the right side of the chart. >> > >> > Here is what I'm hoping for (and these are guesstimates). Note that >> all dates are not required for each format. See the LP for a >> completely filled sequence. >> > >> > Should I start with sheet music? ? ? >> > >> > Cylinder Developed 1877 Ended 1931 >> > Acoustical 78s Developed 1897 Ended 1931 >> > Electrical 78s Developed 1924 Ended 1962 >> > **Long Play 33 Developed 1948 Major 1952 Dominant 1955 Decline 1980 >> Niche 1990 Ended 2025 >> > Single 45 Developed 1949 Ended 1990 >> > 2-track reel Developed 1953 Ended 1960 >> > 4-track cart Developed 1956 Ended 1965 >> > 4-track reel Developed 1958 Major 1963 Decline 1970 Ended 1980 >> > cassette Developed 1963 Major 1970 Dominant 1978 Decline 1993 Niche >> 2002 Ended 2008 >> > 8-track cart Developed 1965 Major 1968 Decline 1978 Ended 1988 >> > CD Developed 1982 Major 1986 Dominant 1990 Decline 2006 Ended 2025 >> > DCC Developed 1992 Ended 1996 >> > MD Developed 1992 Major 1995 Decline 2000 Ended 2009 >> > Digital Downloads Developed 1994 Major 1999 Dominant 2006 Ended 2025 >> > >> > Another way of showing this (and more difficult in Excel) would be >> to have the width of the line indicate the relative dominance of a >> format on a given date. I don't think we have enough data to do that >> for all of these. >> > >> > Whatever dates any of you would like to modify or add, I would >> appreciate it. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Richard >> > >> > >> > >> > Richard L. Hess email: [log in to unmask] >> > Aurora, Ontario, Canada (905) 713 6733 1-877-TAPE-FIX >> > Detailed contact information: >> http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm >> > Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Timothy Wisniewski, M.L.I.S. >> >> Visual Materials Archivist >> Alan Mason Chesney Medical Archives >> Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions >> 5801 Smith Avenue, Suite 235 >> Baltimore, MD 21209 >